Removing tyre advice
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- Blackhound
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Removing tyre advice
I was trying to remove a tyre last night and could not get a start on it. Two weeks ago I tried to remove the front- in the hot weather- but I could not shift it. Returned to it last night and it popped off first time. Then the rear refused to budge. I must have been there 30 minutes.
The rims are tubeless Hunt 4 season gravel disc and tyre a WTB Riddler 45mm if of any relevance.
It feels, almost, that it is glued in. To be clear I am running tubes, no sealant.
There is slow puncture in the rear so I need to get it off, the tyre is nearly new (Two big rides) so I don't want to cut it off, I am far too tight for that.
Any advice? TIA.
The rims are tubeless Hunt 4 season gravel disc and tyre a WTB Riddler 45mm if of any relevance.
It feels, almost, that it is glued in. To be clear I am running tubes, no sealant.
There is slow puncture in the rear so I need to get it off, the tyre is nearly new (Two big rides) so I don't want to cut it off, I am far too tight for that.
Any advice? TIA.
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Re: Removing tyre advice
Have you got access to a vice Kevin? Failing that, a pair of vice grips will usually break the bead. Failing that, then a G clamp
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Re: Removing tyre advice
Hard to do with smaller tyres but stand on the tyre and use the rim as a lever - dont put the wheel on the ground disc side down or you will bend it
Some of the new tubeless rims are just impossible* to remove without tools** and even an inner tube will pop the bead on them - looks at alpkit sonder rims on my broken road
* it make me wary to go bikepacking on them as a puncture will be game over or i need to carry tools for this
** my preferred method is some mole grips or plumber plyers and a tea towel over the tyre [ i did it once without and popped the tyre with the knurled bit of the grips]. Less leverage on smaller tyres but never had it with my road or gravel tyres
Some of the new tubeless rims are just impossible* to remove without tools** and even an inner tube will pop the bead on them - looks at alpkit sonder rims on my broken road
* it make me wary to go bikepacking on them as a puncture will be game over or i need to carry tools for this
** my preferred method is some mole grips or plumber plyers and a tea towel over the tyre [ i did it once without and popped the tyre with the knurled bit of the grips]. Less leverage on smaller tyres but never had it with my road or gravel tyres
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Re: Removing tyre advice
Thanks both, I haven't got a vice but will try some grips again.
Their has been some progress. I left the wheel outside overnight and when I tried a short while ago one side popped off, I removed the tube but the other side still will not budge.
Over the years I have had few issues with tubeless and sealant and always got tyres off when necessary so this is a first. I wondered if it was to do with tolerances. I have two sets of wheels, mtb and gravel and switch wheels as required. These 45mm tyres went on the gravel wheels but next time I will try on the mtb Mavic rims. I am sure I checked they were suitable.
Their has been some progress. I left the wheel outside overnight and when I tried a short while ago one side popped off, I removed the tube but the other side still will not budge.
Over the years I have had few issues with tubeless and sealant and always got tyres off when necessary so this is a first. I wondered if it was to do with tolerances. I have two sets of wheels, mtb and gravel and switch wheels as required. These 45mm tyres went on the gravel wheels but next time I will try on the mtb Mavic rims. I am sure I checked they were suitable.
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Re: Removing tyre advice
Thanks Stu and Lazarus. Using grips did not seem to be working so went back to thumbs and it had loosened off enough for me to remove it. I just did a little skip around the garden with a wheel in one hand and a tyre in the other.
I took these wheels on a small trip to the start of the TCR and back, I would have been in big trouble if I had a flat when I was over there. The rear had started to soften slightly but not enough to deal with on the road.
I took these wheels on a small trip to the start of the TCR and back, I would have been in big trouble if I had a flat when I was over there. The rear had started to soften slightly but not enough to deal with on the road.
Re: Removing tyre advice
I feel your pain, literally, I had bleeding fingernails trying to get a WTB tyre off a rim last year
Had to do the standing on the tyre thing whilst pulling up on the rim
Had to do the standing on the tyre thing whilst pulling up on the rim
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Re: Removing tyre advice
Pedros levers and if that fails, try standing on it to snap the bead
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Re: Removing tyre advice
I always use 3 levers (well, when they're stubborn like that). Pedros and ParkT. All industrial types. Works really well and by the time the first 2 are wedged in, the 3rd just breaks the seal - sometimes with alot of pressure...voodoo_simon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:02 pm Pedros levers and if that fails, try standing on it to snap the bead
Re: Removing tyre advice
I keep getting a thing on Facebook for a tyre bead tool - looks like a crooked pair of pliers. Hasn't come up for a few days or I'd post a link.....
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Re: Removing tyre advice
I use Pedro's levers and some BBB tool for difficult tyres but with no success. Maybe it is a WTB issue as Shewie also struggled. I like the tyres but a bit put off getting another pair.
Re: Removing tyre advice
Not much help, but I recall having a lot of trouble with Hunt 4 season rims and WTB tyres a few years ago. They were the last set of WTB tyres I used and hadn't encountered a problem since, until fitting my usual tyres onto a new set of WTB rims a few weeks ago! Perhaps its a WTB thing
Re: Removing tyre advice
I have the tyre bead tool but only really works for seating them, not taking them off
Nothing to add as most of the things I would've done have already been recommended. Always slightly worrying when a job at home is grief, would be impossible out on the trail!
Nothing to add as most of the things I would've done have already been recommended. Always slightly worrying when a job at home is grief, would be impossible out on the trail!