Neoair XLite vs Exped Syn UL7

[jBay]

Thoughts?
Neoair seema so noisy when you move around!

[Taylor]

Exped for comfiness, thermorest for lightness.
My money would go on the exped.

[FLV]

Exped for comfiness, thermorest for lightness.

Yep.

[rudedog]

I cant comment on the neoair but the Exped is great - amost as comfy as my bed!

[TheBrownDog]

Im using the long/wide Syn UL7 and its very comfy and remarkably warm. Its also nice and quiet. I wish Id bought the size down though - the full size one is a bit overkill even for a lump like me. Inflating it is a faff. They recommend using one of their pillow pumps to avoid getting condensation inside the mat from your breath, and while it only takes 3-4 minutes doing so under a tarp in the rain is a right pain. Practice on your living room floor a few times before you use it in anger would by my advice. Otherwise, you cant go wrong.

[Bearbonesnorm]

Big fan of Exped mats. I don't think the weights are really comparable, a small Exped is 52cm x 163cm (pretty much full length), a small Neoair is 51cm x 119cm.

They recommend using one of their pillow pumps to avoid getting condensation inside the mat from your breath, and while it only takes 3-4 minutes doing so under a tarp in the rain is a right pain. Practice on your living room floor a few times before you use it in anger would by my advice. Otherwise, you cant go wrong.

I use an Exped Schnozzle bag to blow them up, much faster than a pillow or mini pump.

[johnnystorm]

At 66g this might be lighter than the surplus inflating dry bag I take with me for my neoair:

http://www.facewest.co.uk/Thermarest-Ne ... wwodTL8ANA

[johnnystorm]

Going a smidge off topic.....

Would anyone buy a Hyalite AC Peak mat new if it was £35? I seem to recall they were less than reliable.....

[Bearbonesnorm]

Would anyone buy a Hyalite AC Peak mat new if it was £35? I seem to recall they were less than reliable.....

I wouldn't if it were my only mat, although I might as a spare to loan out. The leaks always seemed to be around the valve area, I wonder if a good coat of seam sealer before use would help?

[composite]

Going a smidge off topic.....

Would anyone buy a Hyalite AC Peak mat new if it was £35? I seem to recall they were less than reliable.....

I had the previous version that was branded Pacific outdoor and got fed up repairing it. A lot of people had trouble with the air mats.
I replaced it with the HYALITE Peak Oyl Lite which is a self inflating which has been great for me so far but only had about 6 nights on it. There doesn't appear to be the issues with they self inflating mats that there were with the air mats.

Only £30 on sale at the moment at Blacks. http://www.blacks.co.uk/equipment/11648 ... -long.html

[johnnystorm]

Cheers. I was idly looking at something in between my Klymit & Xtherm. Palm Oil petite looks a good compromise and is £25.

[Yorlin]

At 66g this might be lighter than the surplus inflating dry bag I take with me for my neoair:

http://www.facewest.co.uk/Thermarest-Ne ... wwodTL8ANA
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I sometimes wonder if you could pump up mats with your bike pump - with an adaptor I guess, but since I will have the pump with me anyway...

I like that battery powered one though :D

[Bearbonesnorm]

I sometimes wonder if you could pump up mats with your bike pump - with an adaptor I guess, but since I will have the pump with me anyway...

I reckon it'd take a long time, a mat requires air volume and bike pumps are more about pressure.

[Yorlin]

Yeah, I looked it up I just feel that it should work... Hmm how much is in those C02 canisters...

[johnnystorm]

Yeah, I looked it up I just feel that it should work... Hmm how much is in those C02 canisters...

Enough to make your mattress nice and frosty!

[Yorlin]

Hmm! I can just heat the cartridge over my ultralight stove...

[FLV]

If you do heat your canister over your stove, could you film it please


For my exped syn mat, I've never used anything other than my gob / lungs to inflate it and I've not died yet