BB200 navigation

[Asposium]

what are people using as their primary and secondary (third?) means of navigation?

[Asposium]

1.) Garmin Montana 610 with full UK OS 25k/50k mapping ((two spare batteries and external charger))
2.) Garmin Fenix 3 ((charger in bag))
3.) Phone ((off unless needed))

[Charliecres]

Etrex 20 and iPhone with Viewranger as back-up

[Richard G]

Edge 1000 with external battery. No backup (I like to live dangerously!).

If it fails, I'll either have to cycle faster, or cycle slower.

[Matt]

The Stars

[whitestone]

Oregon 600 with spare set of batteries.

Backup: panic!

[HopeValleyPaul]

I'll be at the back. I will be following a trail of tyre marks, bike parts, dead garmins and tears.

[Zippy]

1. Etrex 30.
2. Edge 500 breadcrumb trail (I did the BB200 - 2013 on essentially this).
3. Paper maps.

[mat_swan]

1. Garmin 510 breadcrumb
2. Phone with os mapping (free trial for the occasion!)
3. Suunto watch with breadcrumb
4. Need to print some paper maps

This is probably excessive redundancy but if i lose the ability to navigate i will be very unhappy!

[Zippy]

4. Need to print some paper maps

Deffo do this, i needed to cross reference my breadcrumb trail with paper maps a few times when i did it like this.

[Chew]

Seriously......Stop packing for your fears.

You only need one gps unit.
If it fails (and how likely is that) then just bail on the road back to the finish. Either ask for directions or rip a page out of road atlas to take with you.

If you're doubling up (or even tripling) on this, what other stuff are you bringing "just in case"?

[Asposium]

Seriously......Stop packing for your fears.

You only need one gps unit.
If it fails (and how likely is that) then just bail on the road back to the finish. Either ask for directions or rip a page out of road atlas to take with you.

If you're doubling up (or even tripling) on this, what other stuff are you bringing "just in case"?

I'll be wearing a watch anyway, may as well add the route

Have to carry a phone.

I did briefly consider the Garmin Edge 1000.

[Cheeky Monkey]

Seriously......Stop packing for your fears.

You only need one gps unit.
If it fails (and how likely is that) then just bail on the road back to the finish. Either ask for directions or rip a page out of road atlas to take with you.

If you're doubling up (or even tripling) on this, what other stuff are you bringing "just in case"?

Wasting your breath

[Zippy]

Seriously......Stop packing for your fears.

You only need one gps unit.
If it fails (and how likely is that) then just bail on the road back to the finish. Either ask for directions or rip a page out of road atlas to take with you.

If you're doubling up (or even tripling) on this, what other stuff are you bringing "just in case"?

None of this is just in case - I do this on all my rides (where I need nav) - I just happen to have built in redundancy as nice by-product. 3 x A3 bits of paper take up bugger all space / weight and are nice to look at what's ahead when you stop for a bit - the breadcrumb trail on the edge 500 is a bit pants for nav to be honest and why I got the etrex. And the edge 500 weighs bugger all, and I like to have as a just normal bike computer - it's not much effort to load the nav file onto there as a backup seeings as I already have it. No fear really, and if they all go to pot, I'm sure I can look at some road signs. Built in redundancy within your normal kit can't be a bad thing.

[GregMay]

As Chew says. Seriously, it's Wales, not the Namib.

[whitestone]

Seriously......Stop packing for your fears.

You only need one gps unit.
If it fails (and how likely is that) then just bail on the road back to the finish. Either ask for directions or rip a page out of road atlas to take with you.

If you're doubling up (or even tripling) on this, what other stuff are you bringing "just in case"?

I'll be wearing a watch anyway, may as well add the route

Have to carry a phone.

I did briefly consider the Garmin Edge 1000.

I'm with Chew on this (while acknowledging your wink)

Phones and GPS all have clocks (in the case of GPS they work on a time signal) so no need for a watch. I'd debate the need for a watch in any case, most of the time (sorry) knowing what time it is is just useless information. If you are trying to get to the chippy before it shuts then you might need to know the time!

If you have to bail then look at the map and you'll see that there's only a couple of road numbers that you need to remember to be able to get back to Llanbrynmair, they might not be the most efficient but they'll work. Keep it simple, in orienteering, courses have a safety handrail on one side of the area so if you get totally lost then you just head north (for example) and turn left and you'll get back to the event centre.

[burty]

1 garmin Oregon
if that fails I will follow who is ever in front

[ZeroDarkBivi]

It's a sad reflection on the perceived reliability of Garmins that so many of us carry two. Personally its 120g I am willing to take on a multi-day event, when it is critical to completion.

[mat_swan]

If you're doubling up (or even tripling) on this, what other stuff are you bringing "just in case"?

I think the only other thing I've doubled up on is rear lights to avoid being run over. I'd have the phone and gps anyway, paper weighs little, the watch is the backup really.

[mat_swan]

If i was packing my fears I'd need a trailer and some bear spray!

[rich.mike]

I'm following the trail of sweat and tears if the Garmin fails

[HUX]

Extrex 20 only here. Fingers crossed!

[ScotRoutes]

Oregon and paper maps.

I guess I could revert to my phone if it all went tits up.

[In Reverse]

Garmin 810
Phone with Viewranger OS Explorer
3 sheets of A3 1:25000


I had to bail due to GPS failure at about 160km last year and it was bloody annoying.