Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
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Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
I'm so close to pressing the buy button on a PHD minim 400 -5 bag, also looked at design your own but came out more expensive but actually a -2 temp rating.
So why a bag. I sleep very cold.
I know all about quilts and I have a cumulus 400 quilt, it's very nice but I can't get fully comfortable with it.
I've tried it on top of the mat ad with it tucked under the top of the bag but I can't seem to stop some cold air coming through the gaps at times. I'm a side sleeper which can raise the rides a little.
The othe thing I hate is a cold head and neck. Most of your body heat is lost through your head. Ive worn hats, merino hats etc but find they are not comfortable when sleeping or just not warm enough. When I try to stick my head in the quilt I'm so much more warmer and comfortable but you can't stay like this with a quilt.
I'm using a exped downmat with the quilt.
I've tried the quilt and I'm just not sold on it.
I've looked at alpkit but a pipedream does not seem warm enough and they use stichthrough on them. All the other bags are too heavy.
So I think it's PHD bag...........
So why a bag. I sleep very cold.
I know all about quilts and I have a cumulus 400 quilt, it's very nice but I can't get fully comfortable with it.
I've tried it on top of the mat ad with it tucked under the top of the bag but I can't seem to stop some cold air coming through the gaps at times. I'm a side sleeper which can raise the rides a little.
The othe thing I hate is a cold head and neck. Most of your body heat is lost through your head. Ive worn hats, merino hats etc but find they are not comfortable when sleeping or just not warm enough. When I try to stick my head in the quilt I'm so much more warmer and comfortable but you can't stay like this with a quilt.
I'm using a exped downmat with the quilt.
I've tried the quilt and I'm just not sold on it.
I've looked at alpkit but a pipedream does not seem warm enough and they use stichthrough on them. All the other bags are too heavy.
So I think it's PHD bag...........
Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
Well...you could always play import tax roulette and go for Zpacks. -7C, 473 grams, with current exchange rate is around 260UKP.
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Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
No! I'll not try to talk anyone out of buying a PhD bag.
I've got a couple. The quality is incredible, both down and construction
It will last for years. There are other good bags on the market too but a bag designed and made in the UK by skilled people is worth paying for (I think!)
My summer bag in particular has had some real abuse and still looks, and works, like new. It's just unbelievablely warm considering the pack size and weight (335g). I'm lucky it was a barely used second hand bargain but I would pay full price tomorrow if I needed to replace it.
I've got a couple. The quality is incredible, both down and construction
It will last for years. There are other good bags on the market too but a bag designed and made in the UK by skilled people is worth paying for (I think!)
My summer bag in particular has had some real abuse and still looks, and works, like new. It's just unbelievablely warm considering the pack size and weight (335g). I'm lucky it was a barely used second hand bargain but I would pay full price tomorrow if I needed to replace it.
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Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181822026408? ... EBIDX%3AIT
i have one of the 230g one of these , they do a hevyer one too , for £60 including postage from china its awesom, down is good , packs down tiny , ok constructin though verry light, ok down to like 2 degrees, lower than that i just throw a down jacket or primiloft on / over it. bargin though.
i have one of the 230g one of these , they do a hevyer one too , for £60 including postage from china its awesom, down is good , packs down tiny , ok constructin though verry light, ok down to like 2 degrees, lower than that i just throw a down jacket or primiloft on / over it. bargin though.
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Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
I've a PHD Minimus 200 and it's a pretty warm bag given its weight/size. I was looking at a bag for 3 season use (there's a thread from a month or so about it - http://bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/phpBB ... f=7&t=6217), in the end I went for a Cumulus quilt 150 which might seem like a duplication but I intend using both together during the cooler months and during the summer my wife can use the quilt as she already has a 3 season bag.
Note that I haven't had chance to use this combination yet as the nights haven't been cold enough.
Note that I haven't had chance to use this combination yet as the nights haven't been cold enough.
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Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
Do it. Everything I own from PhD is pure class.
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Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
Big love for PhD!
Bought a quilt and a bag
Quilt was superb this summer during a self supported road bikepacking jaunt from the top to the bottom of france and the bad was amazing in Wales a few weeks ago when I got to spend a few days out in the hills.
Amazing workmanship and thoroughly recommended
BUY IT!
Bought a quilt and a bag
Quilt was superb this summer during a self supported road bikepacking jaunt from the top to the bottom of france and the bad was amazing in Wales a few weeks ago when I got to spend a few days out in the hills.
Amazing workmanship and thoroughly recommended
BUY IT!
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Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
Another vote for PHD great company and I love my bag one of the best bits of kit I have
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Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
I've a PHD K series something or other... It's amazingly light at about 400g... I love it.
PHD care a great deal about their products and the people using them. Customer service is fantastic.
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PHD care a great deal about their products and the people using them. Customer service is fantastic.
Push the button
Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
Between us we are doing a truly terrible job of stopping him aren't we!
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Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
I'm heading round shortly with a gun and a sign saying "Step away from the button"!ianfitz wrote:Between us we are doing a truly terrible job of stopping him aren't we!
Just noticed one point in the OP: "Most of your body heat is lost through your head". Not true, if you were completely naked then you'd lose heat fairly evenly from across your body surface. Quite possibly correct if the rest of your body is wrapped up in several hundred grammes of finest goose down and your head isn't.
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Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
Pm, I'll help out, but this instead, no one will ever snore next to you (thanks to George for the original link!)ianfitz wrote:Between us we are doing a truly terrible job of stopping him aren't we!
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shiny-wetlook-n ... 0408.m2460
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Re: Stop me buying a PHD sleeping bag!
voodoo_simon wrote:I'll help out, but this instead, no one will ever snore next to you (thanks to George for the original link!)ianfitz wrote:Between us we are doing a truly terrible job of stopping him aren't we!
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shiny-wetlook-n ... 0408.m2460