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Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:35 pm
by Richard G
...do these exist?
Because of where my bottle cage is at the moment, the top of my bottle pushes up on my frame bag and limits the amount of stuff I can put in there (and also limits me to a pretty small frame bag). I've got space further down my down tube without getting in the way of the pedals / chain... but I've got no idea if there are any bottle cages out there that would bolt further up but extend downwards.
I could also put the bottle cage under the down tube... but I'm not sure where to go about getting one of those either (I don't want to be drilling holes in my frame).
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:45 pm
by whitestone
Yes you can. I forget what they are sold as but basically they are a bar with two sets of holes: one to fix to the existing bosses and the other set for the cage to be fixed to.
I asked about something similar about a month ago but a lot has passed between my ears since then so can't remember!

Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:48 pm
by AlasdairMc
Halfords do plastic jubilee type clips for a fiver that let you mount a bottle cage anywhere
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:53 pm
by mjsmart
Mount Skidmore do their
Bottle Cage Adapter. I might have one spare if I can find it - think it cost me about £8 when they were on sale a few months back.
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:28 pm
by Richard G
AlasdairMc wrote:Halfords do plastic jubilee type clips for a fiver that let you mount a bottle cage anywhere
Would that hold up to serious off road though? I'd be waiting for them to either slip off or obliterate themselves.
mjsmart wrote:Mount Skidmore do their
Bottle Cage Adapter. I might have one spare if I can find it - think it cost me about £8 when they were on sale a few months back.
Yeah, that looks like it would work. Is there a UK seller that you know of?
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:41 pm
by ianfitz
There's a couple of recent threats on this exact thing. But the stock answers are mount skidmore brackets or the elite bottle cage bosses (like a giant screw tightened zip tie)
And yes both will stand up to off road abuse. I've put 7,000km on a set of the elite ones with no problems
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:48 pm
by Richard G
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:47 pm
by ianfitz
That's them. Much better than I thought the be!
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:50 pm
by Richard G
Cheers.
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:53 pm
by Stumpym4
Ive just bought 2 sets of these to mount some extra bottle cages to my forks :)
Seem to work ok
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:59 pm
by ianfitz
ianfitz wrote:
That's them. Much better than I thought the be!
And the advantage over the mount skidmore system is they can go lower down, further away from the fixed bosses. Or as stumpy says on your forks!
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:34 pm
by benp1
I have the mount skidmore adaptors and the elite bottle cage mounts
They both work fine, the mounts are cheaper but the adaptions look neater
I use the mounts to create an extra bottle cage mount, whereas I use the adaptors to move an existing mount
The adaptions push the bottle away from the bosses ever so slightly, so might take up a smudge more room once the bottles are in
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:16 pm
by Mart
you can also get an adaptor for running 2 side by side
The bottles then sit more off centre and avoid the tangle bag
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:00 pm
by Adventurer
ianfitz wrote:
That's them. Much better than I thought the be!
You have given me an idea!
I have a salsa fork but it only has one mount, so I have also used a plumbers clamp (or whatever's it's called) to secure a gorilla cage mount.
But this means the mount is fixed in position and u have to keep on removing the straps.
So I've bought some halfords bottle cage mounts and I am going to see if I can mount the monkey cage rings to them and then mount the cage with straps onto it.
This will allow me to take off and put on the gorilla cage with ease.
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:16 pm
by Adventurer
This is a before picture of my fixed gorilla cage
https://flic.kr/p/yrPTmb
This is an after picture using the halford clamps with one fixed mount
https://flic.kr/p/z7kM8B
And
https://flic.kr/p/znN36o
Now I can remove the gorilla cage as a quick release rather than it being fixed in place. It seems as sturdy as how I had it set up initially.
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:43 am
by Richard G
Just did mine ready for a ride tomorrow. Have it under the bar (surprisingly hard to line up properly) so I have the option of adding another at some point above the bar. Worked well as far as I can tell, though I seem to have stripped one of the bolts that came with it trying to tighten the cage up nice and tight.
One problem I only just realised... I'll need to take the cage off to use my bike rack, as that's where the arm grabs the frame. Not the end of the world though. Also, I couldn't use the big bottle that I had as the top of hit would get hit if I used any significant amount of suspension. Not the end of the world though.
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:07 am
by SteveM
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:31 pm
by Nevis
That looks very neat, assuming your knees don't start knocking.
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:40 pm
by Nevis
Double barrelled bottles... bit of a mash up between and the elite clips and the double mount idea.
Not problem with knocking knees if seated. I very rarely stand so that's fine but not much good it you do a lot of standing.
Got a four day ride coming up on Saturday so I'll see if they p'ed me off and I've ripped them by the end or not.

Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:15 pm
by ianfitz
Nevis wrote:Double barrelled bottles... bit of a mash up between and the elite clips and the double mount idea.
Not problem with knocking knees if seated. I very rarely stand so that's fine but not much good it you do a lot of standing.
Got a four day ride coming up on Saturday so I'll see if they p'ed me off and I've ripped them by the end or not.

that looks like a good system, although the cages you've got there look like they have a bit too open sided to keep the bottles in.
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:29 pm
by Nevis
Yes I did wonder but it what I had to hand so we'll see. Also not much good if you're using stem cells but you could shift them about to suit.
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:34 pm
by ianfitz
Nevis wrote:Yes I did wonder but it what I had to hand so we'll see. Also not much good if you're using stem cells but you could shift them about to suit.
i like the idea a lot. you can get pair of these -
http://www.lezyne.com/product-botcg-flo ... hw1HBFViko - side entry cages which would mean there would be support under the bottle. they are sold as opposite pairs
do let us know how you get on though as I'd be interested in looking into that myself.
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:38 pm
by Trail-rat
bit of rubber and a pair of big jubalee clips.....More solid than a solid thing. bottle stayed in well and was easy to access while doing a skye to montrose coast to coast.
Top tube mounted bottle no bother. and the pumps mounted under the downtube on some zip ties.....
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:11 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I've got an additional fitting on my Wildcat frame bag that'll hold a bottle in that ^ position ... works very well.
Re: Offset Bottle Cage
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:23 pm
by Shuhockey
The shimano di2 mount can be used to move your bottle cage down.