ScotRoutes wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:17 pm Hmm

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000505269783.html?

If that would work then I don't see why a bent spoke wouldn't do the same job.

Jurassic wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:17 pm

ScotRoutes wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:17 pm Hmm

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000505269783.html?

If that would work then I don't see why a bent spoke wouldn't do the same job.

Yeah I guess the curves help hold the link in place while it is being squeezed but certainly I'm tempted to try to fashion something like it myself just out of curiosity.

Yeah bent spoke link pliers are already a thing.

stevewaters wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:11 pm You only get one tyre lever on the Woolftooth types wheras personally I prefer to have 2.

I carry tyre levers too

My multitool has a plastic one and a metal one so technically i have three tyre levers -combined weight is under 100g [no chain tool*] with multitool


* of course i take one

How often do people really have to split a chain at the quick-link on the trail other than perhaps for rear derailleur issues? Having said that I do carry the WoolTooth tool but that's just because it looks and feels nice I've had to use a chain tool a few times though and carry a separate one (Park Tools Mini) which I prefer to use rather than a multi-tool one.

psling wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:14 pm How often do people really have to split a chain at the quick-link on the trail other than perhaps for rear derailleur issues?

Only once - a friend had put the chain on with a 180 degree twist in it Did the lift the quicklink off the chainring and tap the roller thing as Al mentioned.

psling wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:14 pm How often do people really have to split a chain at the quick-link on the trail

Me? Never, yet. I was trying to think of reasons I might have to though.

Only once - a friend had put the chain on with a 180 degree twist in it Did the lift the quicklink off the chainring and tap the roller thing as Al mentioned.

Even then, you could have split the chain anywhere?

Of course, if there'd been no quicklink we'd have had to do that but the quicklink was already in place (they'd just split the chain for whatever reason and joined it up incorrectly) so why not use it?

Twice
Oddly I cannot recall why I had to do this

Even then, you could have split the chain anywhere?

You could but you then have to reinsert the pin with a crappy multitool and hope you do it just right so it does not snap- I am sure we can all generally do this but IME its better to not remove and then reinsert pins.

I've just had a flashback to my dad removing a chain pin using a hammer and nail on an old 1/8" chain. Simpler times...

Lazarus wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:19 pm

Even then, you could have split the chain anywhere?

You could but you then have to reinsert the pin with a crappy multitool and hope you do it just right so it does not snap- I am sure we can all generally do this but IME its better to not remove and then reinsert pins.

Ah, yeah I meant that the chain could be split anywhere and then joined with a Quicklink.

yes fair point - I always have extra links and a chain tool so cannot deny I could do that

I suppose it starts to get expensive when your whole chain is made up of Quicklinks though

True but the real question is does it save weight

Al wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:33 pm If you pull the quick link forward one tooth on the chainring so it sticks up like a triangle, then tap the side with a convenient object it splits easily.

I used this all the time until I saw a cheap pair of quick link pliers to use at home.

This is what I do too. Tap with a lump of wood or similar. Works great.