Cross-border raid to Kielder and Flittingford bothy
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Cross-border raid to Kielder and Flittingford bothy
After reading on here (thanks Ray Young) that a new bothy had opened near Kielder, I sat down with the maps to try to figure out a route to it from our home-town of Hawick. I was very excited to find that by stringing five off-road paths together we could travel almost all the way to it. The idea of travelling many miles off-road from our front door to a bothy in another country had me very fired up to try the trip as soon as possible.
The first of these paths was the old border railway running south from Hawick to Carlisle (closed in 1969 as part of the Beeching cuts). Coming off this at Steele Road, a short road section would take us to the Old Coal Road which crosses the border at the evocatively named Bloody Bush. This would lead down to join the Kielder lakeside path. A short road section to Falstone would lead to the forth track, a bridleway heading north. The very last few km would be on forest tracks.
Google maps gave the distance to Falstone to be 55km, which sounded ok for us. As always though, this was an under-estimation. The total in the end was 70km each way, the furthest the boy has travelled yet in a single day.
The first stop was at Stobs WWII POW camp. This is the last remaining accomodation hut. Stobs is probably the best place to join the old railway path if you are coming from Hawick and don't know the area well. We did this anyway as there were young lambs on a section nearer to Hawick.
Riding the old border railway south. The trackbed is in surprisingly good condition and was remarkably obstacle-free.
Detouring round Shankend viaduct as the bridge is now unsafe and closed. We might have risked it and nipped across, but the little bridges we had ridden under already were very rotten so I didn't fancy this one.
Imagining the steam trains crossing Shankend viaduct. There are moves afoot to re-open the railway, which would be fantastic for towns like Hawick, but would obviously take the path away from the likes of us.
The railway path again with a signal-box in the distance. The gate also looks to have been re-used from the railway. As a former archaeologist, I love things like this.
Approaching Whitrope tunnel - now closed off due to several internal collapses. It wasn't sealed off til 2008 so I'm sad to have missed the chance to ride it.
Inside Whitrope tunnel, the forth longest in Scotland.
Detouring up and over Whitrope tunnel. We took the wrong route just before this photo and it cost us a lot of time and energy. Two of the three Trimontium Eildons can be seen in the notch between the hills. Ruberslaw is also visible on the right.
Whitrope heritage centre, where enthusiasts are restoring the trains.
Joe, wondering what on earth this strange red box is for.
Old train carriage at Whitrope heritage centre
Mile-marker, seen in the undergrowth at the side of the old border railway.
Wills bothy, opened as a memorial to a 26 year old climber, Will Ramsbottam, who died in a climbing accident in 1993.
Inside Wills bothy. Sadly this is often abused as a party den with the result that it is no longer maintained by the MBA or The Friends of Wills Bothy. You can see from the chimney breast that the flue badly needs swept, but things like that just aren't happening any more. It was only relatively rubbish-free for our visit because the person before had cleared up the remains of the last party. It is stumbling along on the strength of this sort of goodwill, but threatened with demolition by the Forestry Commision who own it. It's difficult to know what else can be done really.
Joe's best gangster pose. One of the great things about bothies is the wee treats people leave behind - you never quite know what you will find - in this case a box of cigars. We left them for someone else to find (only slightly sucked).
At the start of the old coal road, a cross-border cart-track which fell out of use with the coming of the railway. I am fascinated by this old network of drove roads and paths that were once as important as our roads now are to us.
Having made a few route errors and done a bit too much siteseeing, we were very late in heading up the old coal road. Joe got very hungry, so we had to stop and cook dinner. As it has been so dry here lately I had to use our wee woodburner in the middle of the track so as not to set the forest on fire. If it looks uncomfortable then you are right - no matter as we had to eat and run. On the menu was spicy prawn noodles with fried corgette and halloumi - not because we are posh, but because it travels well and it is something that Mr Fusspot will eat.
It seems that the Bloody Bush road is some sort of recognised cycle route, though I didn't find anything about this online before we left.
Flittingford bothy the next morning. We didn't reach the bothy til 1am the night before. Joe was completely knackered and I had to ride pushing him and carrying all his luggage to get him the final few km. I won't win Mum of the Year for that one. We had a tarp to sleep under, so we could have stopped earlier, but we both wanted to keep going to get to the warmth of the bothy. It was a tough one though, but had the consolation of being a new daily record for Joe - 70km, smashing his old record of 64km.
Admittedly it was a full-moon, but I still think I deserve some sort of specially struck medal for finding the bothy in the dark from this forest track (she said, modestly). It is in the middle of this photo, just in front of the trees. In the moonlight I thought I could see a slightly darker bit against the dark forest which I reckoned might be the bothy, and managed to find the only footpath to it on the first go. Good job really, as I had a very knackered child with me and it was 1am. It could easily have turned into a stressful nightmare so we were very lucky really. In a few years the new planting will have grown and it will be really hard to find.
The path to the bothy, the gable end against the moonlight the night before was a very welcome sight as it was the first confirmation that we were on the right path and weren't just stumbling around in the dark.
No, not a bottle of pee - the water was rather peaty.
The bothy is tiny, but unoccupied when we arrived, so we brought our bikes in and made the place look very untidy with all our gear.
The recently-opened Flittingford bothy - it would sleep four if you were friendly and possibly two more on the floor in a push. We had it to ourselves though which was great.
My French mime artiste son writing in the bothy book. Joe would like me to point out that these are his Merino wool pyjamas and not a onesie.
Heading back down from the bothy towards Kielder water.
Breakfast of champions in Falstone at the Old School.
The Stell in Falstone, an odd but endearing stone and metal artwork.
The Stell, Falstone, sofas and cushions in stone, anticamassars in steel. Just because.
Kielder Water. I had wanted to incorporate a ferry trip into our route which would have been fun, but unfortunately things just didn't work out with the departure times.
Riding the forest path round Kielder water. A bit like Glentress, but less hairy and with grannies and dogs. So nothing like it at all really.
Looking back at the start of the old coal road and a fence to lift the bikes over. In the dark the night before we had taken a slightly different route that was a lot easier than this one.
A tired boy climbing up on the old coal road away from Kielder.
Joe is not happy with my route-selection. It got worse, then unexpectedly better, as we stumbled upon an old long-abandoned cycle route that swooped us off the hill and out of the fankle of fallen trees we had found ourselves in.
Midges, on their holidays in Northumberland.
Joe's bike is in Scotland, mine is in England.
Half in England, half in Scotland. The border toll stone at Bloody Bush, so-called as it was the scene of an ambush of an English raiding party.
The stone gives rates for carts of coal and distances to various towns in the area. It says 21 miles to Hawick, so roughly the half-way point.
Riding in Scotland again on the old coal road. I think this is my favourite shot of the trip.
Evening sunlight through the trees, golden light on the hills, and my boy and I out on our bikes. Happy place. Its great to be carrying everything you need to spend the night outside so that you don't have to worry when it starts getting dark, but can just enjoy the gorgeous light and the uplifting thrill of just being there.
We reached Will's bothy at 9.30pm and I called it a day there, although we only had 25km left to get home. Joe wanted to carry on, but I could see how tired he was and I was worried that our bike-light batteries, which had taken quite a caning the night before, wouldn't last the journey. It took us three hours to get home the next day in daylight so I am sure this was the right call. Will's bothy sadly has quite an unkempt air, so I didn't really enjoy sleeping there, though Joe didn't seem to notice and slept very well on the sofa.
The track up over Whitrope tunnel. The route of the tunnel is marked by huge notched mounds of earth. The path over used to follow the course of the tunnel, but now zigzags back and forth to avoid the collapsed bits and hopefully prevent it collapsing further.
A hielan' coo posing for the camera. We travelled a total of 139 km or 87 miles in two and a half days. Thanks for reading this epic to the end :D
The first of these paths was the old border railway running south from Hawick to Carlisle (closed in 1969 as part of the Beeching cuts). Coming off this at Steele Road, a short road section would take us to the Old Coal Road which crosses the border at the evocatively named Bloody Bush. This would lead down to join the Kielder lakeside path. A short road section to Falstone would lead to the forth track, a bridleway heading north. The very last few km would be on forest tracks.
Google maps gave the distance to Falstone to be 55km, which sounded ok for us. As always though, this was an under-estimation. The total in the end was 70km each way, the furthest the boy has travelled yet in a single day.
The first stop was at Stobs WWII POW camp. This is the last remaining accomodation hut. Stobs is probably the best place to join the old railway path if you are coming from Hawick and don't know the area well. We did this anyway as there were young lambs on a section nearer to Hawick.
Riding the old border railway south. The trackbed is in surprisingly good condition and was remarkably obstacle-free.
Detouring round Shankend viaduct as the bridge is now unsafe and closed. We might have risked it and nipped across, but the little bridges we had ridden under already were very rotten so I didn't fancy this one.
Imagining the steam trains crossing Shankend viaduct. There are moves afoot to re-open the railway, which would be fantastic for towns like Hawick, but would obviously take the path away from the likes of us.
The railway path again with a signal-box in the distance. The gate also looks to have been re-used from the railway. As a former archaeologist, I love things like this.
Approaching Whitrope tunnel - now closed off due to several internal collapses. It wasn't sealed off til 2008 so I'm sad to have missed the chance to ride it.
Inside Whitrope tunnel, the forth longest in Scotland.
Detouring up and over Whitrope tunnel. We took the wrong route just before this photo and it cost us a lot of time and energy. Two of the three Trimontium Eildons can be seen in the notch between the hills. Ruberslaw is also visible on the right.
Whitrope heritage centre, where enthusiasts are restoring the trains.
Joe, wondering what on earth this strange red box is for.
Old train carriage at Whitrope heritage centre
Mile-marker, seen in the undergrowth at the side of the old border railway.
Wills bothy, opened as a memorial to a 26 year old climber, Will Ramsbottam, who died in a climbing accident in 1993.
Inside Wills bothy. Sadly this is often abused as a party den with the result that it is no longer maintained by the MBA or The Friends of Wills Bothy. You can see from the chimney breast that the flue badly needs swept, but things like that just aren't happening any more. It was only relatively rubbish-free for our visit because the person before had cleared up the remains of the last party. It is stumbling along on the strength of this sort of goodwill, but threatened with demolition by the Forestry Commision who own it. It's difficult to know what else can be done really.
Joe's best gangster pose. One of the great things about bothies is the wee treats people leave behind - you never quite know what you will find - in this case a box of cigars. We left them for someone else to find (only slightly sucked).
At the start of the old coal road, a cross-border cart-track which fell out of use with the coming of the railway. I am fascinated by this old network of drove roads and paths that were once as important as our roads now are to us.
Having made a few route errors and done a bit too much siteseeing, we were very late in heading up the old coal road. Joe got very hungry, so we had to stop and cook dinner. As it has been so dry here lately I had to use our wee woodburner in the middle of the track so as not to set the forest on fire. If it looks uncomfortable then you are right - no matter as we had to eat and run. On the menu was spicy prawn noodles with fried corgette and halloumi - not because we are posh, but because it travels well and it is something that Mr Fusspot will eat.
It seems that the Bloody Bush road is some sort of recognised cycle route, though I didn't find anything about this online before we left.
Flittingford bothy the next morning. We didn't reach the bothy til 1am the night before. Joe was completely knackered and I had to ride pushing him and carrying all his luggage to get him the final few km. I won't win Mum of the Year for that one. We had a tarp to sleep under, so we could have stopped earlier, but we both wanted to keep going to get to the warmth of the bothy. It was a tough one though, but had the consolation of being a new daily record for Joe - 70km, smashing his old record of 64km.
Admittedly it was a full-moon, but I still think I deserve some sort of specially struck medal for finding the bothy in the dark from this forest track (she said, modestly). It is in the middle of this photo, just in front of the trees. In the moonlight I thought I could see a slightly darker bit against the dark forest which I reckoned might be the bothy, and managed to find the only footpath to it on the first go. Good job really, as I had a very knackered child with me and it was 1am. It could easily have turned into a stressful nightmare so we were very lucky really. In a few years the new planting will have grown and it will be really hard to find.
The path to the bothy, the gable end against the moonlight the night before was a very welcome sight as it was the first confirmation that we were on the right path and weren't just stumbling around in the dark.
No, not a bottle of pee - the water was rather peaty.
The bothy is tiny, but unoccupied when we arrived, so we brought our bikes in and made the place look very untidy with all our gear.
The recently-opened Flittingford bothy - it would sleep four if you were friendly and possibly two more on the floor in a push. We had it to ourselves though which was great.
My French mime artiste son writing in the bothy book. Joe would like me to point out that these are his Merino wool pyjamas and not a onesie.
Heading back down from the bothy towards Kielder water.
Breakfast of champions in Falstone at the Old School.
The Stell in Falstone, an odd but endearing stone and metal artwork.
The Stell, Falstone, sofas and cushions in stone, anticamassars in steel. Just because.
Kielder Water. I had wanted to incorporate a ferry trip into our route which would have been fun, but unfortunately things just didn't work out with the departure times.
Riding the forest path round Kielder water. A bit like Glentress, but less hairy and with grannies and dogs. So nothing like it at all really.
Looking back at the start of the old coal road and a fence to lift the bikes over. In the dark the night before we had taken a slightly different route that was a lot easier than this one.
A tired boy climbing up on the old coal road away from Kielder.
Joe is not happy with my route-selection. It got worse, then unexpectedly better, as we stumbled upon an old long-abandoned cycle route that swooped us off the hill and out of the fankle of fallen trees we had found ourselves in.
Midges, on their holidays in Northumberland.
Joe's bike is in Scotland, mine is in England.
Half in England, half in Scotland. The border toll stone at Bloody Bush, so-called as it was the scene of an ambush of an English raiding party.
The stone gives rates for carts of coal and distances to various towns in the area. It says 21 miles to Hawick, so roughly the half-way point.
Riding in Scotland again on the old coal road. I think this is my favourite shot of the trip.
Evening sunlight through the trees, golden light on the hills, and my boy and I out on our bikes. Happy place. Its great to be carrying everything you need to spend the night outside so that you don't have to worry when it starts getting dark, but can just enjoy the gorgeous light and the uplifting thrill of just being there.
We reached Will's bothy at 9.30pm and I called it a day there, although we only had 25km left to get home. Joe wanted to carry on, but I could see how tired he was and I was worried that our bike-light batteries, which had taken quite a caning the night before, wouldn't last the journey. It took us three hours to get home the next day in daylight so I am sure this was the right call. Will's bothy sadly has quite an unkempt air, so I didn't really enjoy sleeping there, though Joe didn't seem to notice and slept very well on the sofa.
The track up over Whitrope tunnel. The route of the tunnel is marked by huge notched mounds of earth. The path over used to follow the course of the tunnel, but now zigzags back and forth to avoid the collapsed bits and hopefully prevent it collapsing further.
A hielan' coo posing for the camera. We travelled a total of 139 km or 87 miles in two and a half days. Thanks for reading this epic to the end :D
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Great trip for the pair of you, enjoyed that .
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Thanks and thanks too for the inspiration Ray :)
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If you ever go that way again the old railway line that heads East after Ricarton Junction is rideable to Kielder, the cutting after crossing the B6357 can be wet and boggy but it's not stopped me before. Just before crossing the road you will come across an old steam train parked on the line at the old Saughtree station.
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Fantastic adventure and write up. You've beat me to Flittingford even though I've been half-planning to go there for months. Still not made it yet.
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Fantastic, and very well done Joe
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Ray Young wrote:If you ever go that way again the old railway line that heads East after Ricarton Junction is rideable to Kielder, the cutting after crossing the B6357 can be wet and boggy but it's not stopped me before. Just before crossing the road you will come across an old steam train parked on the line at the old Saughtree station.
Yes, I discovered this during the trip! It had honestly not occured to me that there might ever have been a station at Kielder so I didn't even bother looking where that other line went. While we were eating at the Old School House I saw a thing on the wall about the station and realised we could have come that way and avoided the big climb over Bloody Bush. That's ok though, just gives us an excuse to go again
padonbike wrote:Fantastic adventure and write up. You've beat me to Flittingford even though I've been half-planning to go there for months. Still not made it yet.
Thanks. It is a delightful wee place. It even has its own patio and logshed....
Lawmanmx wrote: Fantastic, and very well done Joe
Thank you
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You get out and about you do ... looks cracking
May the bridges you burn light your way
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Got to make the most of this fantastic weather - might rain for three months straight starting tomorrowBearbonesnorm wrote:You get out and about you do ... looks cracking
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brilliant that
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..a really enjoyable read, as usual.
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Kind of sums it all up really..... but makes me very homesick and miss getting out with my younglings all the more.Evening sunlight through the trees, golden light on the hills, and my boy and I out on our bikes. Happy place. Its great to be carrying everything you need to spend the night outside so that you don't have to worry when it starts getting dark, but can just enjoy the gorgeous light and the uplifting thrill of just being there.
Great write up as ever. Thank you.
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Just been looking at the MBA bothy map, seven bothies near Kielder, I feel a trip could be in order.
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Dammit - you made me get the maps out again
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thanks too for the other comments
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I swung by 3 of them on a very windy Xmas eve last year (Green, Roughside, Haughtongreen). Green was surprisingly well kempt, roughside seems to get a bit of attention from the ne'er do wells as there was Police notices up suggesting they might drop by of an evening.... Haughtongreen was also a cracker but requied a bit of illicit public footpath riding to access....Ray Young wrote:Just been looking at the MBA bothy map, seven bothies near Kielder, I feel a trip could be in order.
Green
Haughtongreen
Roughside
Another great trip Borderer, thanks for sharing
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thanks
Those look good. I have my eye on Roughside for sure.
Flittingford also had one of those police signs up and the police had also visited the bothy and stamped the book four times in the brief period that it has been open. There wasn't any indication that this was warranted at all (and the gates to the forest were locked to all but FC vehicles) so I put it down to a outdoor-loving plod who just enjoys doing the rounds of the bothies. More a preventative measure than a sign of past trouble hopefully.
Those look good. I have my eye on Roughside for sure.
Flittingford also had one of those police signs up and the police had also visited the bothy and stamped the book four times in the brief period that it has been open. There wasn't any indication that this was warranted at all (and the gates to the forest were locked to all but FC vehicles) so I put it down to a outdoor-loving plod who just enjoys doing the rounds of the bothies. More a preventative measure than a sign of past trouble hopefully.
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So glad I waited until I was at the "big" screen before reading this thread. That's superb all round - good effort by the lad, lovely photos and loads of interest.
FYI: https://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/en ... ordertrail
I don't know if you've seen this site either; http://www.southofscotlandcountrysidetrails.co.uk/ Originally put together for equestrians but great for bike routes ideas too.
FYI: https://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/en ... ordertrail
I don't know if you've seen this site either; http://www.southofscotlandcountrysidetrails.co.uk/ Originally put together for equestrians but great for bike routes ideas too.
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Spithope is lovely. A small bothy with great character but also near the road and not far from the Pennine Way so can be popular. A midweek visit probably best.
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Thank you I must try and sort out the photo size issue though, as I am sure a lot of folk just read this on the phone.ScotRoutes wrote:So glad I waited until I was at the "big" screen before reading this thread. That's superb all round - good effort by the lad, lovely photos and loads of interest.
FYI: https://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/en ... ordertrail
I don't know if you've seen this site either; http://www.southofscotlandcountrysidetrails.co.uk/ Originally put together for equestrians but great for bike routes ideas too.
Thanks too for the links - those look very useful.
Yep, I quite fancy a pop at that one too. We used to live on a sheep farm near Morebattle, so I know the Hownam area quite well. It was always frustrating to have to turn around to head back from there, so I would love to be able to head up the Hownam valley and just keep going sometime. I really love the Cheviots, some fantastic riding and archaeology around there.Ray Young wrote:Spithope is lovely. A small bothy with great character but also near the road and not far from the Pennine Way so can be popular. A midweek visit probably best.
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That looks amazing and very inspirational. Cant wait to do first overnight bike ride with my boy very soon.
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Great read, will have to revisit on the pc to see your pics though!
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Yeah, sorry about that - I must try and get that sorted for the next one....