The remote feed meths stove lives (again).

[Bearbonesnorm]

If anyone's at all interested ... the remote feed meths stove returns. The latest version now features a cunning internal one way/non return valve and smashing heat resistant silicone hose. The thing will keep burning for as long as there's fuel in the bottle, the only limit is the size of your feed bottle. If there's any demand then I'll offer these along with the soon to be available 8g and 22g stoves.

Think I might try a 'twin ring' set up for the winter bivvy

[wingnut]

Looks great ,do you have a video of it in operation ?

[Taylor]

Now that, I'm interested in!!!

[Bearbonesnorm]

Looks great ,do you have a video of it in operation ?

Er no ... I'll try and do something but really, really don't expect too much

Now that, I'm interested in!!!

Just to be clear this isn't 8g size, 'tis 22g size which is 42mm high x 50mm diameter. Adding the valving, fittings and line takes the weight from 22g up to a whopping 40g

[Taylor]

And?

[Bearbonesnorm]

And?

And what ? ... I was just telling you, I don't think the size is obvious in the picture.

[Taylor]

I meant, "And" the problem with 40g is?

[Ian]

An 81.82% increase in weight is quite a lot








//I'm joking obviously. Looks cool. If you could shoe-horn it all into an 8g version, now that'd be neat!

[Bearbonesnorm]

I meant, "And" the problem with 40g is?

Sorry, with you now.
Nothing wrong with 40g, it's still smaller than a Whitebox and only weighs 10g more ... I can live with that

If you could shoe-horn it all into an 8g version, now that'd be neat!

[restlessshawn]

this could finally tempt me off of gas!

ideal pot size?

how easy is it to blow out?

[Bearbonesnorm]

ideal pot size?

It'll work with anything between 80mm and 150mm ... something 100mm(ish) would be great.

how easy is it to blow out?

Pretty much impossible. Once you're done cooking just shut off the fuel line with the attached clip (not in pic) and let the fuel inside burn off.

[pedalhead]

Stu, you are the Dr Emmett Brown of Bikepacking. That looks ace! I think a proof of concept video is required please!

[Bearbonesnorm]

Stu, you are the Dr Emmett Brown of Bikepacking

Don't know if that's a good thing or not

Won't a video be quite boring ... fill with fuel, light, bloom, burn - burn - burn - repeat?

[Taylor]

Don't know if that's a good thing or not

Won't a video be quite boring ... fill with fuel, light, bloom, burn - burn - burn - repeat?

I don't know, a video of you arsing around with meths talking more about tea than the stove and telling Dennis to f**k off and get his nose away from the flames would be quite funny I think. :D

[pedalhead]

Is that the same tiny stove that Ian had on the Beacons overnighter a couple of weeks ago?

[Bearbonesnorm]

s that the same tiny stove that Ian had on the Beacons overnighter a couple of weeks ago?

No, what Ian had was an 8g stove which is kind of the opposite of this. The 8g is intended to be used with a 450ml mug and just make a brew or heat enough water for a pouch meal.

There's a 22g stove without the remote feed which will burn for about 10 minutes on 30ml of fuel ... once the fuels gone you have to start over (just like every other meths stove). This is the same size as a 22g just with the added bonus of your fuel supply not running out part way through cooking*

*Only really going to effect folk trying to boil lots of water or cook a 'proper' meal.

[Cheeky Monkey]

I'm curious, what happens when the burning surface of the meths drops below the levell of the inlet pipe to the stove body? Can the flame go "back up" the pipe to the fuel reservoir?

I ask this question from the PoV of, effectively, a complete ignoramous. I suspect it's highly unlikely and laughable to anyone with the remote-est understanding of stoves but always happy to have my daft ideas ridiculed :D

[Bearbonesnorm]

I'm curious, what happens when the burning surface of the meths drops below the levell of the inlet pipe to the stove body? Can the flame go "back up" the pipe to the fuel reservoir?

'Tis a fair and valid question, it would be possible for the flame (or at least very hot vapour) to return up the feed pipe and into the bottle. However, in this case the potential (and as you say quite unlikely) event is taken care of by the addition of a one way valve in the body of the stove As the pressure in the stove starts to increase the valve shuts but a light squeeze on the fuel bottle opens it and allows more fuel in. Stop squeezing and the valve shuts ... if you listen carefully you can actually hear it opening/closing.

[Ian]

Stop squeezing and the valve shuts ... if you listen carefully you can actually hear it opening/closing.

Being careful not to get too close and set your hair on fire, I presume?

What happens as the volume of meths goes down in the bottle? Do you have an air inlet?

Also, when you've finished with the stove, what happens to the fuel in the pipe if there's a non-return valve at the end, or do you just disconnect the pipe and let it run back in?

[Bearbonesnorm]

What happens as the volume of meths goes down in the bottle? Do you have an air inlet?

I've considered that and thought I might need to add something to the fuel bottle. In reality there seems to be enough volume in the bottle to compensate, without the need to allow air into it.

Also, when you've finished with the stove, what happens to the fuel in the pipe if there's a non-return valve at the end, or do you just disconnect the pipe and let it run back in?

The feed pipe has a shut off clip on it. Once you close it off, whatever fuel is on the stove side will burn off and whatever's on the bottle side can be returned to the bottle. There's nothing stopping you closing the clip, letting the stove burn out and keep everything connected.

[Cheeky Monkey]

Rockin'

Keep us informed as I think I'd quite like one of those beasties 8-)

[Pyro]

Aye, I'd be I interested in one as well.

[Bearbonesnorm]

Here's a little (poor) snap of it burning. Just to check the valve, I decided to remove the fuel bottle and with the stove burning and suck on the fuel pipe from the stove ... net result? Nothing, I'm still alive and all my internal organs are intact and unburnt, so at least we know the valve works



I've also just discovered that if you wanted to put it out but not away ... say you'd finished for the night but would want it again the following day ... by giving the fuel bottle an extra squeeze you can extinguish the stove. The sudden rush of incoming cool fuel lowers the stoves internal temp' and pressure to the point it can't produce vapour to ignite.

[Bearbonesnorm]

One last thing before I shut up ... what colour should the fuel feed pipe be?

Something bright so you can easily see it, orange or yellow maybe? Or something a little more stealthy?

[Cheeky Monkey]

Too much stealth gear as it is, go lairy

Though I imagine you'll sell more with a neutral option.