sonder frontier or anything similar.

[ton]

looking to buy anew rigid bike with a bit more luggage capability than my solaris.
sonder frontier has caught my eye. also a genesis longitude.

any thoughts on either of these.

[Ray Young]

Must say I am a fan of steel so if it was me I would go that route.

[firestarter]

Pinnacle ramin plus?

[middleagedmadness]

Had a longitude for 5 months now although it's not been out bikepacking yet ,( still building up kit) I've used it for all day rides ,towpath commute every day and some trail center stuff ,to be honest apart from the saddle I can't fault it the full suss hasn't left the garage since I've had it ,very little trail buzz ,oh the tyres are a t@#t to get off to go tubeless

[Naffa]

@middleagedmadness i'm in the next port along the coast from you, in Tipton

[middleagedmadness]

Ah grand another fishing village dweller , as soon as I've got a winter sleeping bag sorted ( which should be over the next couple of weeks) let me know if you want to get out , got most of January off work

[windjammer]

a jones plus has the cappacity to carry a big frame bag

[johnnystorm]

a jones plus has the cappacity to carry a big frame bag

[firestarter]

[ton]

jones plus has the cappacity to carry a big frame bag

it does indeed.
it also has the capability of being pretty crap at riding in any other weather conditions other that dry smooth california like conditions.

i know because i bought one.

[firestarter]

Was yours 135 spacing at the back or bigger Tony. As i remember seeing it and it was terrible clearances.

[fatbikephil]

jones plus has the cappacity to carry a big frame bag

it does indeed.
it also has the capability of being pretty crap at riding in any other weather conditions other that dry smooth california like conditions.

i know because i bought one.

Not my experience - all weather, all trails, no problem (apart from the price....)

[ton]

2mm clearance with a chronicle. chain just scraped mud straight off the tyre and cause constant chain suck and blocked rear mech

2017-01-02_12-58-14 by 20ston, on Flickr

completely useless in mud.

2017-01-02_12-57-52 by 20ston, on Flickr

[windjammer]

my jones plus has 12mm either side with a maxxis minnion 29x3 tyre,the chronicle is a summer tyre lol