Nope, and this is a point lost on Landowners in Scotland - there is no law of trespass so eff all they can do other than shout at you. But I've got a whole range of ways of dealing with that!Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:37 pmIf they ever were lost Phil, would it stop you doing what you do?there is definitely a feeling up here that our access rights are not set in stone and could well be subject to change for the worse...
I know it might appear as though I'm not particularly bothered by this but rest assured I am but I'm also pragmatic. Mr Hedge fund is quite obviously just a tw@t but I do wonder whether the outcome of this case was in any way swayed by the bad press of the last few years surrounding fly camping which as we know was often simply reported as 'wild camping'.?
The problem is what Dave and others have said - people lacking in confidence or just wanting a nice easy time without upsetting anybody are the ones who suffer. the bawbags keep doing what they were doing (with impunity largely) and people like us with a bit of nous, but the people to whom it matters the most suffer.
Plus, in a way, mister tw@ty has well and truly blown it - prior to this, people just quietly camped on Dartmoor knowing they were in their rights, more or less. This would have had hee haw effect on his tw@tnesses ground or animal slaughtering operations. Now it's all over the national press, loads of people will be heading up there to see what all the fuss is about and doing 'protest' camps, causing him much more grief.
If he'd adopted a pragmatic approach of ignoring the responsible campers and getting his paid heavies to move on the neds, he'd resolve any problems of antisocial behaviour. Instead, and like all of these idiots, he reached for his lawyer and made a huge PR gaff of it all.