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New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:20 am
by Mike
So iv been using my surly cross check for two yrs now n love it but I think I want to change it for disc version cx bike. That way i csn use the new 29er wheels in it. Which frames will take a wider tyre n rim and what would folk recommend I really like the stoater, pickenflick n cdf frames. Can anyone recommend me a new bike ;0)
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:23 am
by Ian
You can have a go on my Shand Stooshie if you like, Mike?
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:47 am
by Mike
cheers ian thats grand.... what the difference between the stoater and the stooshie. Are going to the bb party? if so i will drop u a line mate re route and plans

Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:49 am
by Bearbonesnorm
Have you got a preference in frame material?
What size tyre do you want it to accept?
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:58 am
by Mike
Hi Stu,
I was thinking about a ti one but then i ask myself why? Answer - coz its shinny

So no probably steel or alloy. I have some hope enduro rims that i want to utilize on it, saves buying new wheels also. I want something that is fairly light but also i can use for longer touring trip also in the future
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:15 am
by darbeze
I have to say I love my Croix de Fer. Room for 40c tyres and really comfortable too.
Reasonable price helps too!
Built my 2015 frame up with SRAM Force and Rival transmission, Mavic Aksum disc wheels, carbon seat post and 3T bars and stem. I really enjoy riding it. I have ridden over 3500 miles on it and it has easily survived a couple of CX sportives and various offload rides on and around Dartmoor.
One good thing about the expanding range of bike genres being marketed at us is that there are lots of lovely bikes to choose from these days. Does make it difficult to choose though!
Si
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:23 am
by Bearbonesnorm
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:36 am
by benp1
I really like the look of the Shand bikes so would definitely go for that if I was in your shoes and liked those 3 options the best
I have a Pinnacle Arkose 2 which, as it's a 1x10 bike, will happily run 40c tyres, though I am running 32s and mudguards on it as its my commuter
Lots of lovely shiny toys out there, but they get quite spendy quite quickly!
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:40 am
by whitestone
I've the Genesis Croix de Fer 10
http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/adv ... -de-fer-10 as a commuter/road tourer. It's pretty decent for the money (I got the full build but they do sell a frameset) It's got 35C tyres on it, I'm not sure what the largest tyre it could accommodate which might depend if you want to fit mudguards or not. 4Kg for the frame which isn't light (my Solaris steel frame is 2.2Kg for example), the CdF10 is 13Kg or so with mudguards fitted.
Other options: the Alpkit Camino Ti but it's fairly new so there might not be many independent reviews. Frame weight is 1.7 - 1.9Kg depending on size. Then as Stuart mentions there's the On-One frames.
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:02 am
by Ian
Mike wrote:cheers ian thats grand.... what the difference between the stoater and the stooshie. Are going to the bb party? if so i will drop u a line mate re route and plans

The Stooshie has the 44mm headtube to take a tapered carbon fork. It also has a slightly stiffer front end (resulting from fractionally larger diameter tube set), which when coupled with the carbon fork gives a nice blend of compliance in ride comfort and precision in handling. Mine builds up at 21lbs with 2x10 gears and dirt drops.
Mine has seen a lot of riding, and I absolutely love it. It does more miles than the Bahookie really, which says a bit as that too is a brilliant bike.
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:25 am
by cyclingtiger
The lass has a Kinesis 5T and I can confirm that it's a really lovely ride. Aimed at the winter league market but pretty versatile I reckon it would handle well away from the usual CX circuits. Not silly money.
Similarly the Ridley bikes are great as well. If you go and take a look at the
Hargroves Cycles page then they're selling off some previous year's models at prices that aren't as eye-watering as this year's prices. Again, popular with the winter league racers but capable machines.
Neither of them will be designed to take any of the usual touring accessories though.
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:02 am
by restlessshawn
Another cdf here. I built it up from the 2016 reynolds 725 frameset, 1x9 and 40mm nanos. It's more gravel tourer than cx but I guess that's what you wanted anyway.
It's not light! Mines built about 24lbs but it's really comfy and stable handling. Even with 40mm tyres I don't get toe overlap which is a big improvement over my previous more cx bikes. I used it for the Dirty Reiver and it was spot on, not been touring / bikepacking on it yet.
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:21 am
by restlessshawn
whitestone wrote:4Kg for the frame which isn't light (my Solaris steel frame is 2.2Kg for example),
The frameset (725) is "3.83kg (Med frame, fork, headset & seatclamp)", about 1.2kg of that is the fork. I'd guess the frame only is more like 2.5kg so it's a bit heavy but not shocking.
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:29 am
by whitestone
restlessnative wrote:whitestone wrote:4Kg for the frame which isn't light (my Solaris steel frame is 2.2Kg for example),
The frameset (725) is "3.83kg (Med frame, fork, headset & seatclamp)", about 1.2kg of that is the fork. I'd guess the frame only is more like 2.5kg so it's a bit heavy but not shocking.
Ah, not comparing like with like there am I?

Surprised that a steel fork is 1.2Kg TBH, my suspension forks (for a 29er) are 1.8Kg
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:45 am
by restlessshawn
yeah they are actually pretty weighty, in the same region as my on one steel forks but my kitchen scales have packed up so can't get exact figures

Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:34 pm
by AlasdairMc
Salsa Warbird. I'm thinking of running mine with Crests - I've got H Plus Son tubeless rims on at the moment. It's pretty light, and very comfy for an Alu bike.
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:01 pm
by fatbikephil
I have a Cotic x frame and forks which I'm looking to pass on....??
Re: New cx bike help req
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:04 pm
by Dainiusd
I had Genesis Croix 2014 bike with custom carbon fork, size 58 frame was 2.3kg and could take not more than 38mm tyres. I'm currently building a Pinnacle Arkose - simillar geometry, but space for 42mm tyres + very nice internal cable routing. Alloy frame is 1.7kg + 0.8kg fork