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Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:57 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
In my never ending quest to avoid doing anything productive, my mind got thinking about windshields (like it does) and in particular, internal air volume. I know from previous highly technical experiments that the larger the air volume inside a shield, the better a stove behaves ... it's a similar principle to that of a 'still airbox' on a motorbike / car.

Trouble is, although making a large volume 'box' is simple enough, it probably wouldn't lend itself very well to the lightweight, minimal world of bikepacking that we all know and love. Whatever it was made from needed to be as flexible as possible and I suppose as light as possible would be nice too.

2 brews worth of workshop time have resulted in a rough prototype of the Cuben - Carbon Windshield. I'm not convinced the dimensions are right yet and a greater degree of 'adjustability' for different stoves / pots needs adding but I think it might just work. This one comes in @ 7g and can obviously be folded up and stuffed wherever there's room.

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Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:07 pm
by Mike
I like the idea Stu but not sure it would work in the wind we had up the glyders last wed night :lol:

might head ur way this week pal wed thurs if ur free and fancy a ride out

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:17 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
might head ur way this week pal wed thurs if ur free and fancy a ride out
I would but I'll be heading over to the IOM with Chew on Wed.

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:27 pm
by benp1
How would that work Stu, pegged into the ground?

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:33 pm
by Taylor
Hope you didn't light that and leave a burn mark on Dee's new worktop?

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:37 pm
by Scattamah
You could replace the carbon with Alu. or Ti pegs and anchor it. Seems like it'd be so light, a farmer farting 2 mile away would blow it over and onto your flame.

Greetz

S.

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:32 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
It is anchored to the ground, the carbon supports have got little spikes on ... obviously, I couldn't push them into the worktop so used a little blue-tac instead :wink: Pushed into the ground, 'twould be very secure.
Hope you didn't light that and leave a burn mark on Dee's new worktop?
She's gone out :wink:

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:28 pm
by Mike
Totally forgot pal. Hope u guys have fun on iom we didn't quite make iy in April as planned :(

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:48 pm
by dlovett
Did these ever make it to the production stage Stu?

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:21 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Did these ever make it to the production stage Stu?
Not yet Duncan but hopefully they will after Christmas.

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:42 pm
by belugabob
Bearbonesnorm wrote:It is anchored to the ground, the carbon supports have got little spikes on ... obviously, I couldn't push them into the worktop so used a little blue-tac instead :wink: Pushed into the ground, 'twould be very secure.
Hope you didn't light that and leave a burn mark on Dee's new worktop?
She's gone out :wink:
Yes, but have the flames?

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:33 pm
by dlovett
Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Did these ever make it to the production stage Stu?
Not yet Duncan but hopefully they will after Christmas.
It time for Bach? if so would be interested.

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:39 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
It time for Bach? if so would be interested.
I'll see what I can do.

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:05 pm
by dlovett
Bearbonesnorm wrote:
It time for Bach? if so would be interested.
I'll see what I can do.
Ta.

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:07 pm
by ctznsmith
Thinking about the original 'problem' here could you make something like a big 'pocket stove' that slotted together but in flat pieces that could be put in a frame back/pannier (or could be rolled/curved slightly into a dry bag?).

I've had a lot of conversations recently about how unstable a lot of meths and gas stoves are, if the pieces provided a stable base as part of the 'box' then it might be worth the bulk/weight.

Your 'target market' for such a thing though might be kitchen sink cycle tourists though not uber-light bikepackers.

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:38 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Thinking about the original 'problem' here could you make something like a big 'pocket stove' that slotted together but in flat pieces that could be put in a frame back/pannier (or could be rolled/curved slightly into a dry bag?).

I've had a lot of conversations recently about how unstable a lot of meths and gas stoves are, if the pieces provided a stable base as part of the 'box' then it might be worth the bulk/weight.

Your 'target market' for such a thing though might be kitchen sink cycle tourists though not uber-light bikepackers.
I think things like the 'Clik-stand' and the 'Trangia Triangle' already do this ... although using them, generally means using a stove that weighs nearly 150g :shock: I don't want to make stuff for the clumsy or inept, I'd rather they learnt how to use lightweight stuff properly :wink:

Re: Cuben Carbon Windshield.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:57 pm
by ctznsmith
Bearbonesnorm wrote:I don't want to make stuff for the clumsy or inept, I'd rather they learnt how to use lightweight stuff properly :wink:
Fair enough.

Edit: yeah your right clickstand does cover that 'market'.