I've got a trip to the Atlas Mountains planned this spring which my 2 seasons bag won't be enough for. As I seemed to have missed out on the end of line deals on the Rab neutrino 400's, has anybody spotted any good deals on a nice -5 to -10 rated down bag?

I've been eyeing up PHD's minum 400 -5 but I'm 6.3" and would need a long which makes it just too much ££. Their Hisper -9 also takes my fancy as I'm a cold sleeper.

This Criterion looks like a potential. Anyone had any experience of them?

http://www.downsleepingbag.co.uk/sleepi ... tml#SID=16

So I guess I'm looking for a bag similar to a Pipedream 600 that would fit my 6.3" slim build and come in under 900g. Any suggestions from my fellow 2 wheeled tramps would be appreciated.

Thanks Nathan

In Stu's own words, "deal of the century":
http://www.fieldandtrek.com/vango-catal ... bag-781196

Not got one, yet, but I'm about to....

I'm only 6'2" but find the Vango bags (I bought a Venom 300) short/snug enough that I gave mine to the wife and bought something in long (though I do sometimes use it and am chunkier than some).

Thanks both. At 6.3" it might be a squeeze but it is a cracking deal.

Having suffered in a 2 seasons bag now for a few years and having the opportunity to buy a new one I'd happily pay a little more to lower the price and temp rating.

GairyM, out of interest what long bag did you replace the Venom400 with?

I got a really good deal on a Mountain Hardwear 'Spectre SL 20' (in long) in a half price sale in the US and happened to have a family member coming back at the time so no customs charges.

It's an amazing waterproof down bag which they don't make anymore (don't know why?).

It's also a sniff heavier than you're after.

Having looked about that Venom 400 seems unbeatable in value. Trigger pulled. Thanks for the advice.

Having looked about that Venom 400 seems unbeatable in value. Trigger pulled. Thanks for the advice.

Luckily whoever writes the bumph at F&T doesn't know much ... the Force 10 bags are much higher quality than the Vango Venoms. 95/5 700+FP down and lightweight shells on the Force 10 bags.