For the last couple of years I've been very happy with 650x47 Byways for the 80/20 road/trail riding I tend to do locally.

I'm considering a change to 700c wheels but the Byways only seem to come in narrower variants.

Are the 700x40 or 44 similar character to the 650x47, or is there better "all road" tyres I should be looking at?

@Dyffers

https://www.lyonequipment.com/tyres/tyr ... lack__3619
These Teravail Wasburns are on sale at Lyon Equipment. Range of widths and carcasses....very similar tread to Byways

L2R24 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:22 pm @Dyffers

https://www.lyonequipment.com/tyres/tyr ... lack__3619
These Teravail Wasburns are on sale at Lyon Equipment. Range of widths and carcasses....very similar tread to Byways

I've done around 350 miles so far on mine (700 x 47) with lots of forest tracks and some rougher stuff, as well as plenty of road riding. They are a bit heavy (700g's) but fairly tough feeling, grip well on the dirt and roll nicely on road.

I like my Pirelli Cinturato Gravel M in 700x45, for this kind of thing.

The teravails look good and come in 47.

The Pirellis looks a bit treaded for what I'm after. Any experience of the 'H' version?

I have teravails in 44mm
Suspect there is a better tyre for 80% road use and its ok( predictsble) off road but not great if its muddy ( not terrifying either but if its muddy grass i advise walking , mud over hardpack its much better ). Rolls ok considering what it is.
I have done century rides on them that were probably 80% road ( eg salter fell, hardpack lakes routes around ambleside and start and end of dales divide ( arnside to ribblehead and back).
Edit : tubeless works fine and never had a puncture possibly only 1 k ish mileage at a guess and wearing very well)

Vittoria terreno dry are similar to byways, and good for mostly road but surprisingly capable and hard wearing apparently (mine are still newish). Options for casing protection level too. I Don't think you need to go as wide for 700c to be honest, 40 to 45mm would be my preference. Having spent 3 years on 650x47 I'm now on 700x40 partly because the road percentage is now higher on the gravel bike because of the xc 29er. I tried 700x50mm for a short time and it was too much for that kind of bike (Camino Al).

Was going to say Terrenos also. They feel like a quicker tyre for the same size as a Byway.

Yeah, Vittorio Terreno Dry have been good for me. Robust, hold air very well if tubeless, surprisingly grippy off road and zip along nicely on road. Weight and wear seems ok too.

Dyffers wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:19 pm The teravails look good and come in 47.

The Pirellis looks a bit treaded for what I'm after. Any experience of the 'H' version?

yes. Been through some for most of 10000 km. I have little comparison, but I still quite like them. Didn't even change to winter tyres last winter, albeit it was a bit sketchy every now and then.

https://bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/phpB ... 25#p303725

I'd not be surprised if they were faster than Byways on all surfaces.

Rubber compound seems to. Probably not the longest lasting, but I felt it gripped well for how bald its tread is and how bold I rode them.

The last time I changed tyres, the former one was on the bike for about 3000 km. Usually I wear them down or damage them earlier - I ride much more off road than on road and often find myself riding over sharp rocks. I found around 60 cuts/tears/holes. Running them with Oko High Fibre sealant, diluted with water (somewhere in the range of 60:40 to 70:30). It seemed lots of damage, yet the tyre still ran just perfect (except for worn tread). I'm not sure if this is normal (for how I use them) or lots of damage due to the nature of the tyre, since I've never ridden that distance on one set.
Perhaps I'll go back and give the Schwalbe G-One RS another try. They felt very similar and (for me) the Schwalbe is much cheaper and easier to get. Will it take more of a beating? I've no idea.

If you fancy a tyre with a more similar tread to the Byway you may want to check out Schwalbe G-One Comp too.

yourguitarhero wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:53 am Yeah, Vittorio Terreno Dry have been good for me. Robust, hold air very well if tubeless, surprisingly grippy off road and zip along nicely on road. Weight and wear seems ok too.

Oh... yes. Only ever rode that tyre on the rear of a stupidly under tyred Ibis Ripley and had loads of fast fun on easy MTB terrain.
If the compound is anything like the MTB version, it will be a good choice too.
Another one I should give a try on the gravel bike...

https://www.bananaindustries.co.uk/prod ... eq=uniform

Just seen these IRC Boken Plus TLRs (700x42) for £35 each at Banana Industries...smooth central tread, grippy shoulders a la Byways