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Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:45 am
by Bearbonesnorm
That's right, today is the day to celebrate and give a special thought to those soggy furry bundles of fun :-bd

Please, no smut.

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Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:50 am
by RIP
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:45 am Please, no smut
Well that's killed the thread stone dead then :smile: .

Aye, cute though.

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:54 am
by RIP
Any on the Twymyn or Dyfi? That'd be interesting to see.

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:03 am
by UnderTheRadars
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:45 am That's right, today is the day to celebrate and give a special thought to those soggy furry bundles of fun :-bd

Please, no smut.

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Nice beaver!

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:16 am
by Bearbonesnorm
Any on the Twymyn or Dyfi? That'd be interesting to see.
Reintroduced on the Dyfi Reg. Down near the Osprey centre I believe.

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:27 am
by Dave Barter
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:45 am That's right, today is the day to celebrate and give a special thought to those soggy furry bundles of fun :-bd

Please, no smut.

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Absolutely. They are lovely creatures and it is unthinkable that some could consider turning them into muffs

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:28 am
by voodoo_simon
There’s also some in Delamere Forest* but yet to see them

https://www.cheshirewildlifetrust.org.u ... re-reserve

*Hatchmere but no one knows that place!

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:46 am
by psling
Aye, and on Greathough Brook in Forest of Dean :-bd

... and they have been breeding

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:52 am
by riderdown
Stu will be able to get Welsh beaver balls for his bowstring......

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:24 am
by sean_iow
Still not seen any beaver on my comutte, but given the weather and the state of the area it may be too wet for them :lol:

I'll have to see what happened to the proposal to introduce them here.

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:43 am
by sean_iow
There were objections to the introduction

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Sadly this sign is gone now as always made me smile when I rode past :grin:

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:35 am
by fatbikephil
That puts in my mind a vision of someone pointing sternly at a Beaver gnawing a tree down - "NO!"

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:37 am
by riderdown
I'll have to see what happened to the proposal to introduce them here.
There seems to be a well organised guerrilla group helping with reintroductions hence beavers being found in places where they haven't been officially reintroduced

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:36 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
There seems to be a well organised guerrilla group helping with reintroductions hence beavers being found in places where they haven't been officially reintroduced
... but just where does one obtain a pair of beavers from?

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:47 pm
by johnnystorm
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:16 am
Any on the Twymyn or Dyfi? That'd be interesting to see.
Reintroduced on the Dyfi Reg. Down near the Osprey centre I believe.
Also some at the top of the Artists Valley at Blaeneinion. Just don't mention Covid or 5G.

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:48 pm
by jay91
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:36 pm
There seems to be a well organised guerrilla group helping with reintroductions hence beavers being found in places where they haven't been officially reintroduced
... but just where does one obtain a pair of beavers from?
Facebook marketplace probably :lol:

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:59 pm
by burty
I do love a nice beaver :-bd

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:26 pm
by sean_iow
fatbikephil wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:35 am That puts in my mind a vision of someone pointing sternly at a Beaver gnawing a tree down - "NO!"
If they are introduced* here I'll have to say NO in a stren voice when I pass :lol:

* I say 'introduced' as it appears there's no evidence for them having previously been here other than they were on the Mainland and 7000 years ago we were connected to the Mainland :roll:

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:25 pm
by riderdown
having previously been here other than they were on the Mainland and 7000 years ago we were connected to the Mainland
As you were connected to the mainland for 6000 years after the ice sheets retreated it may be a fair assumption that at the time of separation beavers were on the island, how long they lasted is a different question

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:05 am
by Scattamah
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:36 pm ... but just where does one obtain a pair of beavers from?
Salt Lake City....although it has been known that one can acquire more than a pair, if required, to get the job done.

Greetz

S.

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:21 am
by HUX
We are about to get a pair in Wyre Forest. Large enclosure is nearly finished. Dont think they'll stop the Severn flooding though! Not sure how safe they will be either as they are on a busy public route, hope they put some cameras up.

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:36 am
by Alpinum
There's a industry canal behind our house (more like a small stream) which went through a renaturation project. Once fish were introduced the beavers came by themselves and now there's a family. Quite amazing what they do.
If you ever hear a clapping sound near the water, take a good look - it may well be a beaver.

On the other side of the house is a (usually) small river - (it's called the Emme) which they most likely use to explore new territories.

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:39 am
by sean_iow
riderdown wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:25 pm
having previously been here other than they were on the Mainland and 7000 years ago we were connected to the Mainland
As you were connected to the mainland for 6000 years after the ice sheets retreated it may be a fair assumption that at the time of separation beavers were on the island, how long they lasted is a different question
The wording on the website almost admits it's a stretch (reading between the lines) and it also states there is evidence for them on the mainland at the locations they list but none for here. The consultation was meant to be completed and the introduction was supposed to be 2023. This has probably been pushed back because of covid.

As there are already issues with flooding upstream of the location which results in a road closure so any further restrictions to flow seem unwise. The area is also of importance for water vole so that might be an issue, the increased access by wardens to check on the beavers and altering water levels.

I'm not sure we need them here, we have plenty of endangered species to care for without introducing additional species. I'm also not overly enamored by the way the organisation proposing them operates.

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:40 am
by sean_iow
Alpinum wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:36 am Once fish were introduced the beavers came by themselves and now there's a family.
Aren't beavers vegetarian? Have you got otters?

Re: Happy 'International Beaver Day'

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:57 am
by RIP
Scattamah wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:05 am
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:36 pm ... but just where does one obtain a pair of beavers from?
Salt Lake City....although it has been known that one can acquire more than a pair, if required, to get the job done.

Greetz

S.
Interesting.

So I searched for "Mormon beavers". That was quite an eye-opener :smile: .

I tried again: "Looking back at the Mormons of the late nineteenth century, one historian joked that, while they took “the bee and its hive as [their] symbol… a more appropriate one would have been the beaver” and its dam. Indeed, to feed the tens of thousands of people who made their way to the Salt Lake Valley, Mormons had to redirect rivers, streams, and springs to water farm after farm after farm".