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How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:06 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
... designed specifically for the Highland Trail?

https://bikepacking.com/news/chiru-high ... _8svBeS65s

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Re: How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:24 pm
by Dave Barter
If they give me one I'll prove it isn't....

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:53 pm
by Lazarus
Pretty.confident its what is known as marketting bollocks

27.2 is an odd seatpost size for a dropper , do ypu get many brands in that size.

How many folk use a 34 single ring set up for the HT550?

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:09 pm
by PaulB2
Lazarus wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:53 pm 27.2 is an odd seatpost size for a dropper , do ypu get many brands in that size.
Apparently there's quite a few...

https://singletrackworld.com/2023/03/27 ... ers-guide/

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:47 pm
by Lazarus
T a could only name two

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:03 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Pretty.confident its what is known as marketting bollocks
I did wonder :wink:

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:13 pm
by Cheeky Monkey
:from his armchair:

Jeepers those cranks are FUGLY :YMSICK:

:from his armchair:

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:45 pm
by boxelder
Knowing how much walking's involved, they've saved weight on pedals?
It's very unlikely you'd need more than one water bottle - I can't think where you ride for an hour on the route without passing an opportunity to get water.

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:52 pm
by fatbikephil
It's not a rigid singlespeed so no use on the ht whatsoever in my view :grin:

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:10 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Jeepers those cranks are FUGLY
Oh, I thought they'd just not taken the protective packaging off.

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:17 pm
by ton
regardless of the marketing, it is very nice.
the pinion Chiru bike is another belter.

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:44 am
by rivers
Lazarus wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:53 pm Pretty.confident its what is known as marketting bollocks

27.2 is an odd seatpost size for a dropper , do ypu get many brands in that size.

How many folk use a 34 single ring set up for the HT550?
I have a 27.2mm dropper on my gravel bike. Weird size for a mountain bike...

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:57 am
by johnnystorm
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:06 pm ... designed specifically for the Highland Trail?
Aping the Salsa Cutthroat it has a list of Scottish chip-shops laser engraved on the downtube?

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:09 am
by faustus
Marketing aside, I do think it looks really nice. I'm not that keen on the Ingrid crankset, but the rear mech is very aesthetically pleasing (the price, not pleasing). 27.2 makes a lot of sense for an XC/endurance bike, to design in a bit of flex comfort, and there's plenty of dropper options.

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:10 am
by voodoo_simon
ton wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:17 pm regardless of the marketing, it is very nice.
the pinion Chiru bike is another belter.

Excellent pun… :-bd

And true, the bike does look great

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:25 pm
by redefined_cycles
The Santa Cruz 2021 frame (and even later) are still sold in 27.2. Apparently (they and others) claim the thinner seatpost means a comfier ride. I'm no expert at the HT550 but having owned a (poor show - pardon my french) carbon bike which broke due too much power at the pedals (won't say which company it was, but, a poor show one that I wouldn't wish to badmouth anymore) carbon frameset I'd not trust many carbon bikes in the wilderness.

Though the Santa Cruz is carbon and itllbe ehat I do the HT550 on if I ever manage a black on the bb200 then a bb300 etc etc... In terms of ti, I don't get why they're still in fashion. Such a pest to put/weld together perfectly (commin enough seeing em with fractures isn't it!) and then out in the field who the heck can repair/weld a ti frame!

IMHO it's a steel that should be a 'HT550' bike... Surely, maybe the HOLT by Fairlight or summat similar. Nice name, Chiru :smile: are they trying to be the new Salsa. Also, still building in Ti or Carbon - not sure what Greta would have to say about that!?

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:27 pm
by redefined_cycles
faustus wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:09 am Marketing aside, I do think it looks really nice. I'm not that keen on the Ingrid crankset, but the rear mech is very aesthetically pleasing (the price, not pleasing). 27.2 makes a lot of sense for an XC/endurance bike, to design in a bit of flex comfort, and there's plenty of dropper options.
Any reliable ones (like a Beand X) with decent drop that won't break the bank?? When I find one it'll go on the Highball...

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:25 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
it has a list of Scottish chip-shops laser engraved on the downtube?
That would indeed be a stroke of genius. :-bd

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:35 pm
by faustus
redefined_cycles wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:27 pm
faustus wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:09 am Marketing aside, I do think it looks really nice. I'm not that keen on the Ingrid crankset, but the rear mech is very aesthetically pleasing (the price, not pleasing). 27.2 makes a lot of sense for an XC/endurance bike, to design in a bit of flex comfort, and there's plenty of dropper options.
Any reliable ones (like a Beand X) with decent drop that won't break the bank?? When I find one it'll go on the Highball...
No idea what is a decent drop, but there's this, which might break the bank??
https://mtbriders.co.uk/products/pnw-co ... jIQAvD_BwE
Or this?
https://www.swinnertoncycles.co.uk/ks-s ... 9kQAvD_BwE
No idea on reliability but they all seem to need some servicing...

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:53 pm
by redefined_cycles
Thanks Faustus.

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:14 pm
by Lazarus
In terms of ti, I don't get why they're still in fashion
Because its the perfect material, nearly as compliant as steel and nearly as light as carbon The internet is full of pics of all sorts of broken bikes but there is not a website called " I have had a ti frame for a decade and nothing happened

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:30 pm
by pistonbroke
there is not a website called " I have had a ti frame for a decade and nothing happened
Yes there is and it's run by Scotroutes 😉

Tbh, that was my first thought on seeing a Ti frame being marketed as a HTR suitable design, I wasn't aware that Ullapool boasted a surplus of our of hours titanium welders.

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:55 am
by Alpinum
faustus wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:09 am 27.2 makes a lot of sense for an XC/endurance bike, to design in a bit of flex comfort, and there's plenty of dropper options.
When I had my ti frame made I went for the usual large diameter seat tube (as you would for a strong, exped capable bike) and for flex I can insert a sleeve and thin eg 27.2 mm seatpost... did the same to two rigid steel frames.

Doesn't/didn't Salsa promote one of their bikes as an ideal TD bike, very much like this one is for the HT550?
Now look how many TD wannabes and veterans ride one. The strategy seems to work. After all, bikepackers (Bearboners alike) are just humans.

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:09 am
by Bearbonesnorm
After all, bikepackers (Bearboners alike) are just humans.
Dangerous assumption :wink:

Re: How is it .....

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:58 am
by Dave Barter
Alpinum wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:55 am
faustus wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:09 am 27.2 makes a lot of sense for an XC/endurance bike, to design in a bit of flex comfort, and there's plenty of dropper options.
When I had my ti frame made I went for the usual large diameter seat tube (as you would for a strong, exped capable bike) and for flex I can insert a sleeve and thin eg 27.2 mm seatpost... did the same to two rigid steel frames.

Doesn't/didn't Salsa promote one of their bikes as an ideal TD bike, very much like this one is for the HT550?
Now look how many TD wannabes and veterans ride one. The strategy seems to work. After all, bikepackers (Bearboners alike) are just humans.
But with the Cutthroat you can see the design specifics for the Tour Divide, it even has a map on it!!