I haven't looked at air mattresses for years as we have various exped ultralight ones here.

However, we've had a few issues with the seams between sections popping open, and another has a slow leak. So I'm a bit reluctant to get another.

The one that popped the seal between the baffles was replaced by exped - but the replacement has done the same. I don't blow them up hard so I'm not sure what has happened there.

What are others using and would recommend? I should say I really don't want something that sounds like a crisp packet to sleep on which may rule a few options out.

The Nemo mats seem to have many fans. I know John has one that he seems to love.

If you're avoiding Exped then the S2S mats are worth a look, I recently switched from a Exped HL MW to a Thermarest Xlite NXT in wide which had been very comfy, the amount of.noise it makes varies depending on which shelter I'm using and the groundsheet fabric, silpoly is much noisier than silnylon ime

Thanks I will have a look at those. With regards to noise I remember the neoairs sounding like crisp packets irrespective of where they were, if that makes sense. I

adjustablewench wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:42 am The one that popped the seal between the baffles was replaced by exped - but the replacement has done the same. I don't blow them up hard so I'm not sure what has happened there.

My Neoair Unberlite did this as well, replaced under warranty and the new one did exactly the same second use. It also has a slow puncture I can't find. I think they have made too much of a sacrifice of durability in the pursuit of lightness.

My old neoair (now called xlite?) is still going strong. I don't notice the noise but then I'm asleep. They always sound louder to the user as your ear is right next to the mat

+1 for thermorest x-therm.

Friends say it's like I'm sleeping on a giant bag of crisps, but if I'm using it then I'm normally so tired I'm asleep in seconds and so have never heard it myself!

Sea to summit ultralight insulated?

I've a ln exped ul mat as well but always eng up using the sea to summit one.

sean_iow wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:04 am
My old neoair (now called xlite?) is still going strong. I don't notice the noise but then I'm asleep. They always sound louder to the user as your ear is right next to the mat

I don’t hear it either. My (unintentional) solution to the crisp packet noise was to get older and deafer. My ears can’t hear the high frequencies. I can’t hear the ultrasonic cat repellers either. ‘S a shame for anyone that has to sleep nearby though.

My latest neoair (warranty replacement as the old one had an aneurism) isn't crinkly. My old 2/3rds on is...

The latest neoairs are not noisy like the old ones.

Ah, may have a look. Just have memories of crowded nights in bothies with too many people sleeping on crisp packets

frogatthefarriers wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:03 pm I can’t hear the ultrasonic cat repellers either. ‘S a shame for anyone that has to sleep nearby though.

Why are you sleeping with an ultrasonic cat repeller?

Ben98 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:11 am

frogatthefarriers wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:03 pm I can’t hear the ultrasonic cat repellers either. ‘S a shame for anyone that has to sleep nearby though.

Why are you sleeping with an ultrasonic cat repeller?

A person's sexual preferences are their own business!

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:48 am The Nemo mats seem to have many fans. I know John has one that he seems to love.

Moved from Exped to
Nemo tensor insulated regular wide sleeping mat
Super comfy, and tiny pack size for it's R value

Ben98 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:11 am

frogatthefarriers wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:03 pm I can’t hear the ultrasonic cat repellers either. ‘S a shame for anyone that has to sleep nearby though.

Why are you sleeping with an ultrasonic cat repeller?

yourguitarhero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:24 am

A person's sexual preferences are their own business!

Umm…

Surely the cat repeller is to keep cats away? If only they made an ultrasonic slug repeller I'd buy one

I suppose you could take a tub of table salt and put a ring around the bivy bag at night.

PaulB2 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:02 pm I suppose you could take a tub of table salt and put a ring around the bivy bag at night.

Onions work as well. Or garlic..
Hedge your bets on Garlic salt
Or just garlic bread crumbs...

ledburner wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 6:43 am

PaulB2 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:02 pm I suppose you could take a tub of table salt and put a ring around the bivy bag at night.

Onions work as well. Or garlic..
Hedge your bets on Garlic salt
Or just garlic bread crumbs...

At least with the bread crumbs you can leave a trail so we know where to find you

ledburner wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 6:43 am

PaulB2 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:02 pm I suppose you could take a tub of table salt and put a ring around the bivy bag at night.

Onions work as well. Or garlic..
Hedge your bets on Garlic salt
Or just garlic bread crumbs...

Then in the morning you can just chuck the whole mess in a pan - onions, garlic, slugs, the lot - and fry it up for a quick and nutritious(?) breakfast.

What's an "ultrasonic cat" by the way? Is it just one that can run very very fast?

RIP wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:16 am What's an "ultrasonic cat" by the way? Is it just one that can run very very fast?

Ultrasonic cats are only very fast... a very very fast one is hypersonic