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One more question please

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:53 pm
by JohnClimber
Sorry to ask but is there anything lighter and as good as a Hunka bivi bag?

It will be used under a tarp. What other quality bivi bags are out there in the market place please?

Re: One more question please

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:00 pm
by d45yth
Are you prepared to pay more for one (double)? If so, those from Borah Gear are held in high regard on here...do a search within the forum for ideas on the material and size options.

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:16 am
by FLV
I like my Borah gear one.

Mesh face is ace. I'd recommend the long zip option to aid getting in and out

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:38 am
by JohnClimber
Cheers, after a search on here for "Borah" I found this very useful thread.

http://bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/phpBB ... rah#p20371

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:49 am
by Bearbonesnorm
IMO the real plus for the Borah (or similar) is the netting.

Mine's std length but wide, my exped mat and winter quilt fit inside it with plenty of room to loft. I also find the rectangular shape feels far less restrictive than mummy shaped bivvy.

I think when you take everything into account - weight, pack size, cost, quality and how user friendly it is, then it's very hard to better.

Agree with FLV, the extended zip is worth having as are the corner pegging tabs.

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:57 am
by jameso
I got a terra nova moonlight for £80 ish delivered. A bit heavier than a borah at 180g but has a draw-string opening so I thought it'd be better if used w/o tarp in the wet - I think, unless borah users tell me otherwise? Sleep face-down with the drawstring done up and it's fine in the wet. But if you use a tarp all the time, borah looks like a better / good vfm option.

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:02 am
by Bearbonesnorm
I got a terra nova moonlight for £80 ish delivered.
I used to have a TN Moonlite. It was good, certainly light enough and breathed well but I couldn't fit a mat inside* or a winter bag ... so for me it was fine for (midge free) summer use but not all year.

*other opinions about mat inside or outside are available.

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:10 am
by jameso
^ It is a closer fit than my old Rab bag, good point. I tend to use mat outside the bag tho so all ok. A separate head net works ok for the winged terrors, but not as good as a built in one I expect. May trade my Rab in for a borah for summer/dry use, they seem to get a thumbs-up here.

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:29 am
by Zippy
I received my Borah Bivvy (slightly customised designed, M90 top) the other week. I've tested it in my garden once so far (when it was incredibly humid actually and there was a bit of very very light drizzle), without a tarp. Was very impressed with it.

I'll do a more detailed write up with a couple of photos and observations if there's interest.

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:11 pm
by JohnClimber
Cheers all, looks like the Borah has my name on it and I've dropped them an email.

Do you thing the Thermarest Neo Air will fit inside the Borah and give enough room for my winter bag which is a Mountain Hardware Lamina 0 synthetic bag (which claims to go down to -18 degrees)

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:16 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I'll do a more detailed write up with a couple of photos and observations if there's interest.
Crack on Zippy, always welcome.
Do you thing the Thermarest Neo Air will fit inside the Borah and give enough room for my winter bag which is a Mountain Hardware Lamina 0 synthetic bag (which claims to go down to -18 degrees)
Yes, easily ... but get the wide version.

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:09 pm
by Ben98
Please excuse another thread hijack, but does anyone know breathable the TN Moonlight is? Is it as breathable as a hunka? I.e. would it be a comparable spec bivi?
I do love the borah bivi's, but I like the taped seams etc of my hunka
Atb
Ben

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:04 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Please excuse another thread hijack, but does anyone know breathable the TN Moonlight is?
I'd say very similar, TN is certainly no worse than a Hunka.

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:55 pm
by JohnClimber
Ben98 wrote: I do love the borah bivi's, but I like the taped seams etc of my hunka
Has anyone with a Borah ever had the sorts of problems that taped seams are meant cure?

Surly if this was an issues they would tape seams as they make them wouldn't they?

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:38 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Has anyone with a Borah ever had the sorts of problems that taped seams are meant cure?

Surly if this was an issues they would tape seams as they make them wouldn't they?
The material can't be taped on a Borah (Silnylon and M50 / 90) but the seams can be seam sealed if you wanted ... not that it's really required in most situations, after all there's a big hole in the top where you get in and out ;)

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:27 pm
by Ben98
How does the size of the Moonlight compare to a hunka?
Its looking like my next purchase :-P

Re: One more question please

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:27 pm
by FLV
Re the size of a Borah bivi.

I have a normal width and don't have an issue with a full size downmat 7 and a phd diamir 500 bag. I'm not a huge chap but no whippet framed racer either. I don't move about much in the night or try to sit up in it or anything either though