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[Bearbonesnorm]

Is this (yet another) solution to a problem that doesn't exist?

https://bikerumor.com/bonas-labs-disc-o ... exnNCCxPSw

[Lazarus]

May be useful for pro DH mechanic but apart from that I cannot see any other real market

Secondly a non bedded in disc pad still stops you

[jameso]

Depends on how high you're aiming with your shop service standards perhaps.

It's like that saddle angle adjuster that was done a while back, a mate of mine loves the idea of it and is getting one for his new bike. So many products that have many of us saying 'a solution to a problem that doesn't exist' are actually what we need more of generally - products that are different and solve somebody's problem. Then you have a chance to be found by others with the same problem, even if there's only a few of them. But you have a following and a small market that you own. If it's a 1-man band business that's all you might need.

Another way of saying that is, tbh I could see 90% of bikes on the market as a solution to a problem that doesn't exist - they do what every other bike of that genre does. They're homogenized, the differences in them are pretty much insignificant (as much as we like to discuss them or believe they're more important) and the market is oversupplied.

/grump


I like it when people make or do new things with uncertain markets or futures.

[johnnystorm]

Speaking as someone who has little to no decent gradient within spitting distance of my garage, this would be handy. However $3495 seems a lot (even for
pro mechanic) unless you have scores of brakes needing bedding in.

[Bearlegged]

My LBS has made something remarkably similar, they use a cordless drill to drive it. It definitely comes in handy for them. I'm fairly certain they didn't spend $3,495 on it.

[jameso]

$3,500? I didn't rear that far. 350 customers charged $10 for pad set up... : /

[gairym]

I've never bedded in a set of pads in my life.

Old pads dead, new pads in, keep riding.....

What am I missing? Sure as schnitzels doesn't seem to be braking power. Longevity?

[Bearbonesnorm]

However $3495 seems a lot

£350 if anyone wants one - price will then drop once the messing about and weighing up has been done

[fatbikephil]

Oh dear - another myth "ooh yes, you must bed your pads in before using in anger" err no (outside a race) pads bed in within a few braking opps, discs after a few rides (or one if its in the Highlands - granite plus mud will do it in about 10 yards). Why waste good pad material. You may have to squeeze a bit harder for a bit but given how much power your average brake has, I can't see this being an issue....

Looks a horrible contrivance even if you did decide to get use such a thing

[riderdown]

The cheapo brake pad/ disc combination I use seems to benefit from bedding in properly down a hill
My completely subjective view based on half remembered negative experiences when I didn't is that it's definitely worth doing

Don't care if it's a completely wrong stance, it's not as if I'm killing baby robins

I still wouldn't buy some of these, the cost has been reverse engineered based on their daft calculator, I imagine they don't have a patent so there will be 10 Chinese copies on eBay in a week if it takes off

[boxelder]

Charles
6 days ago
When does the fat bike version come out??

I've a habit of skipping to the comments on stuff like this.

As Phil and Gairym suggest - I wonder if 'bedding in' pads is a thing in less hilly parts of the world? Never really seems necessary, as I'm usually braking on descents, which do the job pretty promptly.

[rudedog]

Oh dear - another myth "ooh yes, you must bed your pads in before using in anger" err no (outside a race) pads bed in within a few braking opps, discs after a few rides (or one if its in the Highlands - granite plus mud will do it in about 10 yards). Why waste good pad material. You may have to squeeze a bit harder for a bit but given how much power your average brake has, I can't see this being an issue....

Looks a horrible contrivance even if you did decide to get use such a thing

Think it's more for bedding in new discs and pads together so the disc gets burnished with pad material.

At least that's what the article says

[fatbikephil]

Charles
6 days ago
When does the fat bike version come out??

I've a habit of skipping to the comments on stuff like this.

As Phil and Gairym suggest - I wonder if 'bedding in' pads is a thing in less hilly parts of the world? Never really seems necessary, as I'm usually braking on descents, which do the job pretty promptly.

...Particularly in the typically gungey conditions we know and love over here. Maybe its for California...

[Leerowe76]

never seen anything more useless

[errol]

Marketing gimmick?

Or just ride yr bike for free to get the same effect?

[Alpinum]

Couple of times a year I change pads, then would ride uphill, carry bike and then, with practically unused pads would be allowed to ride down steep stuff. Once things go downhill I do occassionally like to "use my brakes in anger" (quite like that saying).

"Would", but effectively almost always go for a very short spin after changing pads to check if all is good (brake point, no rubbing etc.) and mostly will have given the bike a little love when changing pads anyways. During this quick spin I bed in the brakes so can ride however I wish once on tour.

Berserk mode with new pads = instant glasing of pads = less brake power & squealing, arguably other downsides as some manufacturers suggest. There's a noticeable difference in all pads I ever tried between normal state and glased state.


So yes, I'm a bed in w*nker.

[Bearbonesnorm]

so yes, I'm a bed in w*nker.

I'm enjoying throwing that phrase around and re-placing the words

[RIP]

so yes, I'm a bed in w*nker.

I'm enjoying throwing that phrase around and re-placing the words

I wasn't going to fess up to doing that so thanks for stepping up

[Alpinum]

Oh well...
I should know by now