Hello all and thanks for the suggestions in advance..

The Pedag winter insoles are excellent and cosy warm when the temps get below 0. But ever since I realised my back problem was/is directly affected by standard shoes and insoles - usually most shoes have a fair few mm drop from heel to toe - I removed my insoles and noticed a massive improvement. Additionally I stopped wearing shoes all the time.

Now that winters arrived I've had to pop some insoles back in and went with the winter-ready Pedag. Whilst the feet were cosy-warm, the back didn't like it. Now I'm after some insoles with zero drop but suitable for winter. Does anyone know of any...

I've seen these but canttell if they're shaped or flat and I really need something for next weeks riding.. https://www.shoeinsoles.co.uk/woly-exqu ... soles.html

I can't see that +drop or zero drop will make any difference when you're riding as your heel isn't contacting anything

I can't see that +drop or zero drop will make any difference when you're riding as your heel isn't contacting anything

Good point.. I thought as much too. But my back after coughing and spluttering for over 3 weeks now isn't in the best of shape hence didn't wanna risk even a few metres walked whilst out riding (there'll probably be some wxtended sections that need walking). Plus the insole will be sued for general every walking too

Here you go Shaf, feast your eyes on these babies...

https://anyasreviews.com/warmest-barefo ... zero-drop/

You may need to sort fashion from function and arrange a meet with your bank manager though

Thanksso much Peter... so bloomin ugly hey (the shoes, not Peter) .. That's why I'm just trying to find some flat insoles. According to the running podcast by StrengthRunning it's about letting the feet adapt to various different shoes (I just removed the insoles which I think was part of the advice and it's been great - until now when the weather turned). Interesting fact is that the big toe is supposed to be such a strong muscle of the body that it is supposed to be able to support the weight of the whole body, no probs

redefined_cycles wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:21 pm Interesting fact is that the big toe is supposed to be such a strong muscle of the body that it is supposed to be able to support the weight of the whole body, no probs

e.g. ballet dancers !

You can get wool felt insoles which are meant to be warm, anti-bacterial, and sweat friendly; not sure about the zero drop though. Just search wool felt insoles uk

If you are new to zero-drop shoes Shaf its advised to introduce them gradually, wearing and walking in them progressivley longer/ further each day over a couple of weeks. A sudden shift from traditional shoes to zer-drop can cause/ agrivate achiles tendonitis. I progressively shifted from traditional walking/hiking shoes to Altra Lone Peak trail runners and was worried having had Achiles issues before. 5 months and 3000 miles of hiking ( and 5 pairs of shoes later ) my achiles had never felt better.

woodsmith wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:52 pm If you are new to zero-drop shoes Shaf its advised to introduce them gradually, wearing and walking in them progressivley longer/ further each day over a couple of weeks. A sudden shift from traditional shoes to zer-drop can cause/ agrivate achiles tendonitis. I progressively shifted from traditional walking/hiking shoes to Altra Lone Peak trail runners and was worried having had Achiles issues before. 5 months and 3000 miles of hiking ( and 5 pairs of shoes later ) my achiles had never felt better.

Yes, definitely. Thats why I just removed all the insoles foe the moment and went from alwyashaving shoes on to keeping the feet aired at home. Definitely afreed about the 'never felt better' even though I've not gone full barefoot shoes just yet...

I use laminate floor underlay ( the thin foamy stuff ) in my shoes , get a piece and try it on a really cold floor one foot on one foot off, it works really well and is flat as a pancake.

trob6 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:33 pm I use laminate floor underlay ( the thin foamy stuff ) in my shoes , get a piece and try it on a really cold floor one foot on one foot off, it works really well and is flat as a pancake.

Nice1... I actually have some of the green stuff thats about 5mm... Good call

trob6 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:33 pm I use laminate floor underlay ( the thin foamy stuff ) in my shoes , get a piece and try it on a really cold floor one foot on one foot off, it works really well and is flat as a pancake.

Great idea Tim, I'm trying that. I've got enough to last me the rest of my life (had some laminate flooring delivered last year and it came wrapped in underlay), so would be good to find a use for it.

thenorthwind wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:29 am

trob6 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:33 pm I use laminate floor underlay ( the thin foamy stuff ) in my shoes , get a piece and try it on a really cold floor one foot on one foot off, it works really well and is flat as a pancake.

Great idea Tim, I'm trying that. I've got enough to last me the rest of my life (had some laminate flooring delivered last year and it came wrapped in underlay), so would be good to find a use for it.

Is it brittle or the flexi stuff... Colin sent me some last year but I'm out now. The laminate underlay I have is brittle and the insoles I made have broken already...

Can I send you an SAE Dave

There are two types
Cardboard usually green won't work for shoes

White foam and thin will work.

Foam/ polystyrene tiles would work but much thicker

I got some wool felt inners to add a bit of warmth to my boots when I was in Lapland for a week. Wife and kids were in proper Sorels. I was in a pair of Scarpa SLs with the inner and was fine. Including for a good few hours standing still waiting for the northern lights

They were pretty cheap too

Lazarus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:52 pm There are two types
Cardboard usually green won't work for shoes

White foam and thin will work.

Foam/ polystyrene tiles would work but much thicker

Yes... I have the green rigid stuff (well, yhis version is grey but same as the green from the last laminate job). I might try and look for some wool felt like Ben just said. Not sure where to start. New shoes arriving in a day or so, so I have a few days to try and source some

Just as an aside point and to thank Colin (Scotroutes) if he's about. Yesterday my 8 year old came home complaining of cold feet in the playground. I used the last bit of remnants from the insulation that Colin sent me last year to make the little one an extra insole beneath his main one.

Today he came home almost telling me what a specialist I am and that his feet didn't feel cold once and were nice and comfy. Thanks Colin and everyone else for the years of knowledge

redefined_cycles wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:54 am

thenorthwind wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:29 am

trob6 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:33 pm I use laminate floor underlay ( the thin foamy stuff ) in my shoes , get a piece and try it on a really cold floor one foot on one foot off, it works really well and is flat as a pancake.

Great idea Tim, I'm trying that. I've got enough to last me the rest of my life (had some laminate flooring delivered last year and it came wrapped in underlay), so would be good to find a use for it.

Is it brittle or the flexi stuff... Colin sent me some last year but I'm out now. The laminate underlay I have is brittle and the insoles I made have broken already...

Can I send you an SAE Dave

It's the flexible stuff, bits of foam (presumably recycled) stuck together. Sure, drop me a PM.

The stuff I have is foam, very soft , about 2mm thick.
I have a peice I take out with me for a sit mat as well,

something like this should work fine - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Knixmax-Insole ... ref=sr_1_5?