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Re: Locks, for commuting, superlight, strong and reliable...

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 3:12 pm
by redefined_cycles
ScotRoutes wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 2:59 pm At least it might still be there for the ride back though.

The bigger, heavier lock you have, the more attention you bring to the bike and the more you advertise its value.
Yes, very good point. I think I've figured a solution for one of the cities but will PM you Colin... :smile:

Re: Locks, for commuting, superlight, strong and reliable...

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 4:10 pm
by Squirrelking
redefined_cycles wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 10:14 am Closest thing to a D lock apparently and rated to SoldSecureSilver r I think.
Given Soldsecure Gold is no measure of quality I dread to think how bad that is if it can't even meet that criteria (which is a very specific test that doesn't use big croppers or cordless grinders IIRC).

At the end of the day you want something that's going to stop opportunists, you're not going to fool a professional with a keen eye but if you can at least persuade them it's more hassle than it's worth then you could be onto a winner. Even taking the front wheel with you and storing it in a wheel bag is better than nothing. That lock looks like it could be bent apart really easily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs8uyPsDaw0

See also 596 up to 616 for more of that type getting busted in the same way.


This is cheaper but if you watch the same channel he really rates them, can be picked but real world chances of that are slim.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Onguard-Brute- ... B01A6ZRKNI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvn3_CNVSFs

Personally I'd spend £30 on that and deal with the extra weight knowing at least you'll be able to ride home with it.

Re: Locks, for commuting, superlight, strong and reliable...

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 5:25 pm
by redefined_cycles
Squirrelking wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 4:10 pm
redefined_cycles wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 10:14 am Closest thing to a D lock apparently and rated to SoldSecureSilver r I think.
Given Soldsecure Gold is no measure of quality I dread to think how bad that is if it can't even meet that criteria (which is a very specific test that doesn't use big croppers or cordless grinders IIRC).

At the end of the day you want something that's going to stop opportunists, you're not going to fool a professional with a keen eye but if you can at least persuade them it's more hassle than it's worth then you could be onto a winner. Even taking the front wheel with you and storing it in a wheel bag is better than nothing. That lock looks like it could be bent apart really easily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs8uyPsDaw0

See also 596 up to 616 for more of that type getting busted in the same way.


This is cheaper but if you watch the same channel he really rates them, can be picked but real world chances of that are slim.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Onguard-Brute- ... B01A6ZRKNI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvn3_CNVSFs

Personally I'd spend £30 on that and deal with the extra weight knowing at least you'll be able to ride home with it.
Thanks for that Squirrelking. I'd been seeing that the build of the one I linked to is alot sturdier that the Abus even though its a similar type of lock. Taking the OnGuard wouldn't even work for me as I don't have the ohysical space/capacity to carry it on the bike or myself. The commutes I'm talking about here take on minimum 2.5 hours you see (becuase I enjoy em) and I have my work clothes and lots of other stuff on my person.

I get your point though but I guess I'm trying to find a middle ground and hence the opening of the thread. :smile:

For reference my tonorrows commute would be 6 hours (if I decided to go ahead) and carrying a full D lock for that kind of distance with all my other gear wouldn't really leave me in a decent state to perform decently on shift.

Re: Locks, for commuting, superlight, strong and reliable...

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:10 pm
by lune ranger
Get yourself a rack and panniers Shaf. You’ll have plenty of room for your shoes, uniform and multi-coloured pens in the bags and you’ll be able to strap a great big D lock on to the top of the rack :wink:

Re: Locks, for commuting, superlight, strong and reliable...

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:15 pm
by redefined_cycles
lune ranger wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 11:10 pm Get yourself a rack and panniers Shaf. You’ll have plenty of room for your shoes, uniform and multi-coloured pens in the bags and you’ll be able to strap a great big D lock on to the top of the rack :wink:
You know that I try not to swear Luke. But if I did this would be prime time. You bloomin so n so... :lol:

Re: Locks, for commuting, superlight, strong and reliable...

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:21 am
by PaulB2
Abus have done a series of d-locks over the years that are rated Silver or higher and weigh 800-900g - that might do if you can get away with a small shackle - you might want an additional cable / security bolts for wheels though. They're not cheap though.

Re: Locks, for commuting, superlight, strong and reliable...

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:31 am
by redefined_cycles
Hi Paul. Apparently them Abus ones are really easy/quick to hack/chisel. But the Foldylock appears to be a bit/lot more resistant...

https://youtu.be/oXyRaqZrByw

Re: Locks, for commuting, superlight, strong and reliable...

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 11:00 am
by Cheeky Monkey
I agree, make it look sub standard, lock it up next to something far prettier.

I'm also more function-over-form (though there are a few things, mostly if they're made out of Ti, that have a definite phwoar-factor for me). In this sort of situation I think another adage applies to help you get over the rat bike look - not looking at the mantlepiece whilst you're poking the fire.

So, ratty looking bike with a decent lock.