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Carry on Camping

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 9:06 pm
by Jurassic pusher
I have just watched this film again, not sure how many times it is now but lots in the last 40 years or so!
No doubt it is not particularly PC but boy it`s funny in a harmless dated kind of fashion, I love the innuendos.
Trying to decide if I identify more with Bernard Breslaw`s character or with Terry Scott`s??
I will tell the wife that she reminds me of Matron when i am feeling brave or stupid!

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:37 am
by lune ranger
I’m not sure that a film depicting a middle aged man trying it on with a school aged girl can be considered entirely harmless anymore.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:02 am
by Bearbonesnorm
I'm fairly sure none of the girls looked like that when I was at school - I'd have enjoyed it much more if they had. On a serious note, I think we perhaps need a degree of perspective and remember that they're fictional characters and perhaps in a world where depictions of shooting, stabbing, murder, robbery and let's not forget the easy access many people including kids have to pornogrophy, then maybe the carry-on films were quite harmless? If we're going to impose censorship then there's other places I'd start.

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Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:34 am
by ScotRoutes
School, in this case was Finishing School. In effect, adults/young women. That doesn't negate the large age gap much but it's not paedophilic.

I can't recall many of the Carry On plots but I seem to recall Bernard Breslaw portraying an Indian in Carry On Up The Khyber. That wouldn't be acceptable now.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:57 pm
by Lazarus
As dated and distasteful as minstral shows and not made now for reasons so obvious they don't need stating
See also benny hill.for other "harmless" .sexist humour.
As.scots noticed also happy with lazy racial stereotypes and probably some black face in them as well.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:18 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
See also benny hill
Ooh, heard on the radio the other day that it's coming back. Although I'm not quite sure how given that he's dead.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:47 pm
by Rob S
I wonder if there was an element of reverse psychology deliberately edited into these films? They often portray a middle-aged man ineptly pursuing a younger woman and making themselves look ridiculous.

Growing up, we often used to watch them when it was raining out and I'd had enough of airfix kits and monopoly. They seemed to be on tv every wet weekend afternoon through the early '80s. Some of the early ones and notably 'Carry on Screaming', had some genuine humor in them, towards the end of the series the comedy seemed to get progressively more clumsy/lazy to me though.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:32 pm
by Jurassic pusher
I am very sorry if by posting this thread I have caused offence to anyone in any way. :roll:

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:54 pm
by lune ranger
I’m not offended per se just offering another opinion. Although I may have found some humour in Carry On films, or It Ain’t Half Hot Mum, Allo Allo etc in the past I couldn’t defend it as innocent harmless fun now.
Stu - A sense of perspective? Sure. However just because something else is bad, different, worse doesn’t mean that comedy based on misogyny, blackface, repressed homosexual, British racial superiority, union bashing and keeping the working class in their place is acceptable anymore. Does it?

Shall we stick to bikes?

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:13 pm
by Lazarus
What they said and well said to
I am not upset though you seem a tad disappointed we don't all like them.




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Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:16 pm
by ScotRoutes
Infamy, infamy. They've all got it infamy.

Classic!

There are some genuinely funny moments.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:35 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Does it?
No but in the great scheme, Bab Windsors boobs don't seem that harmful :wink: but you're right - bikes it is.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:37 pm
by Rob S
Jurassic pusher wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:32 pm I am very sorry if by posting this thread I have caused offence to anyone in any way. :roll:
No offence taken whatsoever.

I don't find the films offensive either. There was an opinion by John Cleese last year when the BBC were talking about not airing the Fawlty Towers episode, The Germans. In a similar way to the carry-on films, John Cleese points out that the humour is directed towards an unpleasant, racist hotel owner, not the guests.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:12 pm
by lune ranger
Manuel?

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:50 pm
by Dave Barter
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:35 pm
Does it?
No but in the great scheme, Bab Windsors boobs don't seem that harmful :wink: but you're right - bikes it is.
Did you see what they did to that bra? Those things are lethal

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:54 pm
by Rob S
lune ranger wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:12 pmManuel?
Not so easy to defend that one :wink:

But, I think the cast did point out (in the interviews about the making) that all the mishaps involving Manuel was really Basil's fault. This was because Basil had employed Manuel knowing that his English was poor, just so he could save a few quid on wages. Sounds like some firms around today!

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:58 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Did you see what they did to that bra? Those things are lethal
I believe that bikini was sold at auction not so long ago.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:10 pm
by whitestone
For some reason the satirical programme, Brass Eye came to mind. People got very upset at the "stories" when the real targets were those misrepresenting such events

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:59 pm
by The Cumbrian
Vic and Bob did it best.

https://youtu.be/6ydD2hizE6g

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:05 pm
by RIP
ScotRoutes wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:16 pm Infamy, infamy. They've all got it infamy.

Classic!

There are some genuinely funny moments.
Beat me to that one 'Routes. One of my fave lines as well.

And who could forget Khyber's 'strawberry mousse' sketch, probably my favourite scene of them all.... Brother Belcher's line "Of course, they're all completely mad, you know" could be a tagline for This Place.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:08 pm
by RIP
Rob S wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:37 pm
Jurassic pusher wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:32 pm I am very sorry if by posting this thread I have caused offence to anyone in any way. :roll:
No offence taken whatsoever.

I don't find the films offensive either. There was an opinion by John Cleese last year when the BBC were talking about not airing the Fawlty Towers episode, The Germans. In a similar way to the carry-on films, John Cleese points out that the humour is directed towards an unpleasant, racist hotel owner, not the guests.
Carry On Up The Khyber was not dissimilar. The locals were plainly showing up the invaders for the buffoons they often were.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:11 pm
by RIP
Dave Barter wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:50 pm
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:35 pm
Does it?
No but in the great scheme, Bab Windsors boobs don't seem that harmful :wink: but you're right - bikes it is.
Did you see what they did to that bra? Those things are lethal
As you know, it was actually activated by third assistant director Paul Cowan using some fishing line and a hook :smile: . Such are the improvisations of a low budget.

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:14 pm
by Dave Barter
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:58 pm
Did you see what they did to that bra? Those things are lethal
I believe that bikini was sold at auction not so long ago.
Going once, going twice, gone

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:20 pm
by RIP
whitestone wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:10 pm For some reason the satirical programme, Brass Eye came to mind. People got very upset at the "stories" when the real targets were those misrepresenting such events
And here's us thinking that a nice piece of lemon drizzle is innocuous. I might think twice about DFLDC next Sunday afternoon :wink: ........

" 'Cake' contains a psychoactive compound, dimesmeric andersonphosphate. This ingredient stimulates Shatner's Bassoon, and so drastically alters an individual's perception of time.

In experiments, ingesting Cake caused rats to swell massively".

"The Beware Of Cake Campaign .... was successful, with figures including Bernard Ingham, Bernard Manning, Noel Edmonds, Bruno Brookes, Rolf Harris, and David Amess MP warning viewers about 'the nightmare of 'Cake' "..

Go on then, back to bikes.....

Re: Carry on Camping

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:25 pm
by Lazarus
Cleese was defending the major using the N word and a racist term for asians as mocking the racist which was the Alf Garnett defence and the love thy neighbour( doubt either are seen much nowadays ) . Cleese has more of a point but Manuel is a crudely drawn lazy stereotype that you would not get away with today.
Times change even if we don't.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... r-gowen-is

People got very upset at the "stories
Chris Morris / brass eye was almost entirely people missing his point / proving it but he was very offensive (love his work personally ). I think many missed his satire / sarcasm
Then again I might just be talking nonce sense
It's not true but it is a 100% scientific fact .