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Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:48 pm
by Richpips
......rarely seen now - AA Lithiums in supermarkets.

Where do you buy yours from these days?

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:51 pm
by fatbikephil
Ebay although the prices range considerably. There is currently one seller doing 50 for 50 quid.

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:55 pm
by Richpips
fatbikephil wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:51 pm Ebay although the prices range considerably. There is currently one seller doing 50 for 50 quid.
I bought some off there a bit back, they looked like and weighed like the real thing. They were rubbish though

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:02 pm
by fatbikephil
Oh. I've had two lots that turned up in a carboard box. The first lot had a few random duff ones but the last lot have been fine....

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:27 pm
by slarge
I have a sealed 4 pack and an opened 4 pack - might be used (not sure). They're AA Energizer Lithiums

No use to me as my SPOT takes AAA.

PM me your address and I can send them your way

(the other place that does them is our local Wilco's)

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:31 pm
by ScotRoutes
I just buy them from Amazon. They usually arrive next day, which is quicker than me searching around trying to find them "locally" (i.e. driving to Inverness and back).

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:00 pm
by Ian
Boots chemists stock them in their photo department.

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:55 pm
by Chicken Legs
I read somewhere that the Energizer Lithiums should only bought in a sealed pack or they are probably copies.
I purchase mine from ebay and they have got more expensive recently.
Used a company called Go Green Batteries for years and have always been good.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114589170290 ... SwMa9hcrhy

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:18 pm
by benp1
Out of interest more than anything else - what are you guys using them for?

I tend to put them in things that I need to use infrequently but know they'll always have some charge. Don't get through many at all, the cost really puts me off. What are you using them for?

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:34 pm
by Richard G
benp1 wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:18 pm Out of interest more than anything else - what are you guys using them for?

I tend to put them in things that I need to use infrequently but know they'll always have some charge. Don't get through many at all, the cost really puts me off. What are you using them for?
Seconded.

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:44 pm
by Ian
Advantages;

Cold weather performance (helpful when I was in Finland)
Last longer than anything else (my eTrex 30 lasts about 40 hours on a pair*)
Lighter weight :grin:

* the pair I put in for the BB300 were reading 2 out of 4 bars on the battery indicator at the end of the event (27hr ride time)

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:24 pm
by JohnClimber
Not seen them in ages

But I've changed over to these brilliant 3300mWh Lithium rechargeable batteries that are.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08 ... =UTF8&th=1

No waste batteries, they hold the charge for ages and can be recharged on route from a powerbank too

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:59 am
by ScotRoutes
JohnClimber wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:24 pm Not seen them in ages

But I've changed over to these brilliant 3300mWh Lithium rechargeable batteries that are.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08 ... =UTF8&th=1

No waste batteries, they hold the charge for ages and can be recharged on route from a powerbank too
I have those too, but the power rating is a bit misleading as they show mWh rather than the usual mAh. That means you burn through them relatively quickly.

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:47 am
by ledburner
ScotRoutes wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:59 am
JohnClimber wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:24 pm Not seen them in ages

But I've changed over to these brilliant 3300mWh Lithium rechargeable batteries that are.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08 ... =UTF8&th=1

No waste batteries, they hold the charge for ages and can be recharged on route from a powerbank too
I have those too, but the power rating is a bit misleading as they show mWh rather than the usual mAh. That means you burn through them relatively quickly.
mAh mWh converted from mWh, just divide by voltage... current = wattage/voltage

mAh =mWh/Voltage

Image
=mWh/1.5v (from amazon link above)

=mWh x 2 / 3

mAh= 3300 x 2 / 3

mAh=1100 x 2

=2200mAh

[edit] other brands GP say capacity approx 3300mAh

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:07 am
by ScotRoutes
Yep, that's my point. I'm not accusing them of intentionally misleading buyers by using a unit of power that no one else does but...

In any case, the point is that you might have to carry more - or charge them more regularly - than you might expect.

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:46 am
by sean_iow
Energiser lithium's are 3000mAh, I've seen Enloop rechargeables at 2700mAh, so not much in it.

I've switched over to rechargeables for everything, the main advantage is that I know they are fully charged at the start of a trip. With lithiums I end up with part used ones and you don't know how much charge is left in them.

There are also the cost and environmental benefits. If I was going somewhere very cold I would use lithium in the Spot for the guaranteed cold weather performance so I'd know it would work if required.

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:47 pm
by Richard G
Yeah, that's what I do. I just charge the batteries before I use them to ensure they're maxxed out.

Have never had a problem with capacity (which I test from time to time, as I have a charger that can analyse the batteries).

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:34 pm
by Ian
Didn’t Bob have an issue in the BB300 with some rechargeable batteries that wouldn’t work? I guess you can have lithiums fail, too, but it’s never happened to me.

FWIW, I use regular AA NiMh’s for general use and only get the AA lithiums for events when I want one less thing to have to think about.

Though most of the time I don’t even use a GPS anymore, I just ride and make it up as I go along / know generally where I’m going / want to go.

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:47 pm
by whitestone
Ian wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:34 pm Didn’t Bob have an issue in the BB300 with some rechargeable batteries that wouldn’t work? I guess you can have lithiums fail, too, but it’s never happened to me.
Yes, they were Duracell rechargeables, they are NiMH rather than lithium. I started a thread about "decent" rechargeables.

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:14 am
by pushirons
I picked some up at Asda in Marple before then Nov BB200 if that’s any help.

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:11 pm
by Richpips
pushirons wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:14 am I picked some up at Asda in Marple before then Nov BB200 if that’s any help.
Thanks I'll keep that in mind for nest time.

A delivery came from Amazon today. :smile:

Re: Like white dog shi+.....

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:25 pm
by JohnClimber
ScotRoutes wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:59 am
JohnClimber wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:24 pm Not seen them in ages

But I've changed over to these brilliant 3300mWh Lithium rechargeable batteries that are.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08 ... =UTF8&th=1

No waste batteries, they hold the charge for ages and can be recharged on route from a powerbank too
I have those too, but the power rating is a bit misleading as they show mWh rather than the usual mAh. That means you burn through them relatively quickly.
I've not found that, they last for ages in my old Garmin Oregon