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Algae in lakes n lochs

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:56 pm
by Rasta
Last year I did a lot of swimming in Loch Morlich, Cairngorms. In the summer there were signs saying 'WARNING stay out of the water - Algae'. This is a summer thing, hot temperatures. I was still swimming there in December, in the snow, and the signs were still up.

Today I swam in another loch and it had signs saying the same but dated for June.

When camping, I always drink the lake/loch water. Boiled or treated. And I swim - a lot.

Anyone got sick from this stuff? Apparently it can kill dogs!! :shock:

I heard it was just to cover arses from liability. Just like no swimming in dammed water. (The walled type, not the stuff found in church fonts).

Re: Algae in lakes n lochs

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:33 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
The official line is that Blue - green algae can ....

Exposure to high levels of blue-green algae and their toxins can cause diarrhea, nausea or vomiting; skin, eye or throat irritation; and allergic reactions or breathing difficulties.

Re: Algae in lakes n lochs

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:59 pm
by ScotRoutes
It can, and does, make folk very ill.

It seldom covers the whole of a loch though, especially one with a good wash-through from rivers. Locally, we normally expect Morlich to be fine (maybe apart from the SW end), Pityoulish is normally OK, Vaa can be problematic. Loch Morlich Watersports and Loch Insh regularly test. If they're letting folk out, it should be fine. One of the local swimming instructors also pays for water quality reports and tends to stick to Loch Morlich

Re: Algae in lakes n lochs

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:16 am
by RobLyon
Anatoxin-a is also known as Very Fast Death Factor. it is found in some forms of cyanobacteria (better known as blue green algae)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIavxAm4Mts

Re: Algae in lakes n lochs

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:45 am
by yourguitarhero
Supposedly due to supply chain issues, the Environmental Agency are letting some water treatment plants but non-fully-treated effluent into rivers etc which is likely to cause more algae. Better get swimming sooner rather than later.

Re: Algae in lakes n lochs

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:52 am
by UnderTheRadars
yourguitarhero wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:45 am Supposedly due to supply chain issues, the Environmental Agency are letting some water treatment plants but non-fully-treated effluent into rivers etc which is likely to cause more algae. Better get swimming sooner rather than later.
The amount of raw sewage that has been entering our river systems for quite some time is staggering and frightening, and as you’ve mentioned, thanks to Brexit related supply chain issues it’s only going to get worse.

Here’s a very interesting talk about the dire state of our rivers from a few weeks ago, there’s no way I’d be swimming in our rivers!

https://youtu.be/5ID0VAUNANA

(For anyone who spends time in or on our waterways it’s a must watch)

There were reports of a family dying from blue-green algae, but don’t know if it’s been proven

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58288482

Re: Algae in lakes n lochs

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:17 am
by yourguitarhero
George Monbiot had some pretty good stuff about it a month or two ago.

It's really saddening and overwhelming when you see just how badly we are polluting our world

Re: Algae in lakes n lochs

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:43 am
by Scud
This is from Government, due to "supply chain failures", Coronavirus and the "UK's new relationship with Europe!!" you can discharge effluent outside of the terms of your permit, so feel free to do what you like into our rivers and waterways!

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... lure-rps-b

Re: Algae in lakes n lochs

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:53 pm
by pistonbroke
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More "this septic isle"

Re: Algae in lakes n lochs

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:40 am
by Rasta
After every swim I now have this subconscious habit to spit and clear my nose for half an hour. Not pretty.

Yesterday I had amazing, almost tropical, swim in Loch Awe. The heat!

Afterwards I snorkelled around collecting broken bottles, a big problem in Scotland (Glaswegians and pike fishermen - the locals say) and found hundreds of leeches.
So if you see a man by a swimming area, spitting and snorting and searching his body cavities - please don't call the police - it might be me.

Ps. From experience, be wary of entering water near fishing spots or with camping/fire rings, especially in Scotland. I wear swimming shoes.



David Walliams swam the Thames. And the more wild swimming becomes popular, it's growing very fast, the more attention it will bring to water quality.