Supernova wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:46 pm Ah, that legislation must be why Man vs Horse vs Bike dropped the bike element in the late 80s.

Don’t know why horses are still allowed to race on bridleways though.

mattpage wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:58 pm

Supernova wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:46 pm Ah, that legislation must be why Man vs Horse vs Bike dropped the bike element in the late 80s.

Don’t know why horses are still allowed to race on bridleways though.

You can also close a footpath and then legally race bikes upon it, but you are not able to close a bridleway to have a race.
I have absolutely no idea why and I have asked council rights of way officers in the past and no one has been able to give a clear answer why.

Cheeky Monkey wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:41 am Is there event insurance in place?

ABikeRace wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:09 am

Cheeky Monkey wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:41 am Is there event insurance in place?

Currently speaking to some companies about this

We’re not looking to have any roads closed for this event / challenge / race

From the entries we have had so far, feedback from potential entrants and feedback from the sponsors we have had so far is all positive

lune ranger wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:12 am

ABikeRace wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:09 am

Cheeky Monkey wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:41 am Is there event insurance in place?

Currently speaking to some companies about this

But you’re already taking peoples money

ABikeRace wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:55 pm

lune ranger wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:12 am

ABikeRace wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:09 am

Cheeky Monkey wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:41 am Is there event insurance in place?

Currently speaking to some companies about this

But you’re already taking peoples money

If the event couldn’t take place they would be refunded

pistonbroke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:06 am @Abikerace you may think from some of the responses on this thread that we are a bunch of grumpy bastards trying to undermine your event before it's started. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are trying to avoid you going the way of many organisers who believe they have come up with an event format popular in many other parts of the world which might capture the imagination of the large and growing band of riders wanting a long distance race.
Many other "races" have either fizzled out due to organisers not making the money they anticipated, or have disappeared down the rabbit hole of beurocacy that we have highlighted earlier, some have simply gone underground just winging it.
I organised mountainbike orienteering in mid Wales for the best part of 10 years and Stu (Bearbonesnorm) has subsequently run the WRT and BB200 over a similar period. You would do a lot worse than carefully read the BB200 info on the home page here, more for what it doesn't claim than what it does.
Basing the attraction of your event on the chance of winning a large cash prize is, imo, likely to make you a literal hostage to fortune. If riders are motivated by winning a 4 figure sum, you will have to find a way of verifying their honesty and avoid bad feeling from other competitors.
The liability thing is very important, as the organiser you will be PERSONALLY LIABLE for the fuckwittery of competitors.
Charging £150 entry will mean an obligation to provide an good experience for all the riders not just those at the sharp end racing for money. It's slightly saddening that a glossy website and social media exposure is the first (and sometimes only) thing that wouldbe organisers have to get right when putting an event together, but I guess it is 2021.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll add it to the rules that BW etc are illegal to race on and that we do not advise doing so... think that will work?

Komoot will be your friend for planning your route before and during the race

Don’t know why horses are still allowed to race on bridleways though.
You can also close a footpath and then legally race bikes upon it, but you are not able to close a bridleway to have a race.

pistonbroke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:35 am Having just returned from a 1,000km round trip to the Rioja region which was a complete waste of time due the the event (L'Eroica Hispania) being cancelled with 2 hours to go before registration opened, my thoughts when driving back turned to this event. L'Eroica events attract riders from all over the world and this edition had limited entries to 650. The cancellation was ordered by the ministry of traffic due to the regional cycle federation having failed to adhere to the 30 day notice of it's taking place and pay a €20 admin fee!
When this came onto the Bearbones radar in August, several of us made cautionary comments about promoting it as a race with the arcane laws preventing racing on bridleways and it possibly falling foul of other Road Traffic Act laws, rendering insurance (is there any yet?) invalid. The organiser contributed to the thread, promising to take on board the "Race" aspect of the event but in the 2 months since the last post, nothing seems to have been modified on the website, it refers to being a race every other line of the text, you don't have to look far to find reference to a £1,500 prize fund. Seems that the entries are being invited without much interest in dotting the i's.