think i need a new drop bar bike,something to take a 29x2.4 tyre,a tall headtube 150mm plus,560mm seat tube something with loads of bottle mounts on the forks.bike will be used for bikepacking trips like torino nice
im a big guy so poss steel or titanium frame.matt

Off the peg? Sutra ULTD and Vagabond are the ones that spring to mind, sure there's some much more spendy options out there too

There is no alternative

Aye there is, hunnerts! (Everyone jumped on the bandwagon)
https://bikepacking.com/index/drop-bar- ... ikes-29er/

Ti Fargo

I do like the look of the Curve GMX+, lots of nice details.

if you want i will come over to your area and we can go for a ride out and you can ride my ti fargo.
and you will have a good idea then.

that does look nice tony

Mason ISO

Worth a look. Mine is a 54 so almost as you describe.

Smokestone Mr Harry: https://slam69.co.uk/collections/xc-adv ... frame-only

I’ve got a Smokestone mr Harry, can’t recommend it enough. Not that a Fargo is bad (I’ve only ridden the steel one) so can’t compare ti version like for like.

3.0” tyres just about squeeze onto Harry and it’s very comfy Geo for all day riding etc

Two words:

Velo Orange. Piolet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's three words - who are you, my mum???