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New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:58 pm
by GregMay
Interesting - price is good - would be nice to see dimensions:

https://alpkit.com/blogs/develop/new-po ... king-tents

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:17 pm
by voodoo_simon
Schreader valve seems odd if it’s bikepacking as surely most riders are into tubeless and the vast majority of tubeless valves are presta (yes, I know many pumps are dual ended)

Looks good otherwise from a glancing view

Edit - preorder available

1100g and £179.99.

Nice, if I hadn’t bought a tent last year, I’d be tempted :-bd

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:56 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I would like to see how long it would take to inflate the air beam with your average bike pump. It's quite a large volume.

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:59 pm
by Hamish
I was wondering the same but I’m guessing you can blow by mouth via the valve other valve before finish with the pump.?

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:59 pm
by GregMay
Was thinking similar Stu. Plus side, you'd be tired enough to sleep after it.

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:06 pm
by Lazarus
was wondering if you could use your air bed inflator /sack thingy to do it - no ideawhat its called
have to say using schrader is a massively weird decision - what % of the bikepacking community uses that ?Also who wants to be messing around changing pump internals in the dark and cold - perhaps they have a deal with lezyne pumps :wink:

I can see the appeal of it though

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:11 pm
by Richpips
I've got the Vango Hydrogen, with just a mini pump it takes a bloody age.

You may be able to partly inflate with a bag pump ( the Vango one is rubbish though)

The air beam is excellent in a side wind.

I've put my name down for the 2 p version.

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:22 pm
by Gpl23
I'd maybe take a tent pole incase I got a flat. The tubless tyre repair but in reverse.

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:23 pm
by holdsteady
interesting ... impressed by the pack size and low weight as I have a Berghaus 6 man inflatable tent which weighs a ton compared to my old vango 6 man with traditional poles and thus only gets used for (right next to the) car camping so I assumed there would always be a massive weight and pack size issue with an inflatable

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:29 pm
by Shewie
Slightly disappointed by the weight but would be interested to see if the pack size is as cramable as they say.

Schrader to Presta adapter might be an option but yeah it's a bit of a daft decision.

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:34 pm
by trogladytes
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yizhet-Inflati ... NrPXRydWU=
adapter so you don't have to change the pump inner

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:35 pm
by ScotRoutes
How many CO2 cartridges?

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:36 pm
by trogladytes
Shewie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:29 pm
Schrader to Presta adapter might be an option but yeah it's a bit of a daft decision.
you beat me to it :smile:
I found it really hard to find one sold on its own, but loads of presta to shrader adapters.

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:32 pm
by fatbikephil
The shape is reminiscent of my first gen vango helium. Your face was very close to the sloping wall which lead to a lot of condensation and it always felt cramped.

You could fill most of it with your lungs then use the pump to pressure it?

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:13 pm
by ripio
Very similar to the Vango F10 Hydrogen tents but a third of the price.
The Vangos also use schrader valves.
Interesting thought, would it be feasible to use the air in your tyres to inflate the tent beam at night with some kind of interconnector, then vice versa in the morning? Obviously some topping up would be necessary but it might save some of the time and effort of inflating from scratch.
What sort of pressure would the air beam on the tent be operating at?

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:15 pm
by ledburner
Has Alpkit posted this 2 days early?
like should have been on thursday morning 1st of... .. :wink: :wink: :roll: ?

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:18 am
by psling
Ref the valve. My guess would be that the presta valve has a material ripping pointy bit which schraeder hasn't. I know you can put a cap on it but how long would that last before you loose it....

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:10 am
by Dave Barter
psling wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:18 am Ref the valve. My guess would be that the presta valve has a material ripping pointy bit which schraeder hasn't. I know you can put a cap on it but how long would that last before you loose it....
Might also be more appropriate to stealth car campers which is definitely a growth market atm

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:14 am
by rudedog
htrider wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:32 pm The shape is reminiscent of my first gen vango helium. Your face was very close to the sloping wall which lead to a lot of condensation and it always felt cramped.

You could fill most of it with your lungs then use the pump to pressure it?
I've got the helium - I sleep with my head at the short pole end, more head room and there is a vent there too.

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:34 pm
by AndreR
Richpips wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:11 pm
I've put my name down for the 2p version.
Wow dead cheap that!! :lol:

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:17 pm
by Scud
I have just ordered on the 1p versions, was after something for a Scotland trip to fend away the midgies over my usual bivi bag and tarp approach and was about to order a Lunar Solo when this came through, thought i'd give it a go and see if i get on with it, not very light, but it is a true double skin tent, so hopefully less condensation than the Solo or similar.

My guess for the reason they did not use a presta valve is that it is less "spikey" and more importantly, how many of us have bent a presta valve with the pump?

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 5:32 pm
by Richpips
Mine arrived today, an Aeronaut 1.

I've been looking forward to this new tent from @alpkit for awhile, and it arrived today.
The Aeronaut 1 pictured has an inflatable pole as its main support. With a Topeak mini pump, it took 3.5 minutes to inflate.
It was quite windy this afternoon so I experimented with its pitch. It seems to like the steep end into the wind best.
I've tried the inner to the outer, so it goes up in one now.
1200 grams with poles, (11) pegs and the stuffsacs.
I look forward to a night out in it soon.

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Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:35 pm
by trob6
I received one today also for my wife, we put it up in the garden for a test, clipped the inner to the outer so can pitch as one, the poles at the end were a real sod to fit, proper tight.
Took a few minutes to blow up but realized you can unscrew the release valve and blow it up with your mouth in a few seconds then just top it up with the pump, so far so good.
Lots of space inside and a nice little porch, Eva is only 5 foot 3 so its pretty big in there.
Taking it down we took the air beam out so we could roll all the air out of it a bit easier, there is a zipped compartment for it.
Getting the poles out of the end was extremely difficult, I did one and Eva tried the other, she could not get it out she was just not strong enough and this is in warm conditions with dry hands so I did the other one too.
When rolling it up we found a hole it the fly sheet as well tucked up near the top of the zip.
The rivet hole that the little pole goes though also cut the webbing when I took the pole out so slightly disappointed and I will be sending it back.
Got lots of AK stuff and one of there bikes, usually all good but I think the poles are just slightly too long and the rip I'm not sure but it would have been easy to miss.

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 11:20 am
by Scud
Only issue with breathing into it to inflate is that you're putting in moist air from your breathe, so over time may have issues with bacterial growth etc.

I used a Mountain Morph pump and it was only about 20-25 strokes to inflate, so was impressed there, only issue i found in garden test, was getting all the air out of the tube and the material of the outer itself to roll tightly, will be interested to see with rolling it as tight as possible, how long the airbeam part lasts.

Off to ride Badger Divide on saturday, so will be a good test hopefully

Re: New Alpkit Tents

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 2:21 pm
by Loki
Looks very much in style to the Vango Banshee I picked up last year, I am tempted to upgrade, the thought of trying to inflate the tent when it is windy and raining is not floating my boat, extra weight with the poles but I would wager a far quicker assembly time.