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Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:46 am
by Gpl23
Getting a cold spot on my hip with my Sea to Summit ultralight insulated comfort mat using my Cumulus 350 quilt at this time of year. Whats a good ultralight non bulky remedy. Closed cell foam mat, sleeping bag liner ? Please no suggestions about a new mat or new sleeping bag unless your willing to testify to my girlfriend that you made me buy them😆

Re: Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:51 am
by woodsmith
A small section of closed cell foam placed under the sleep mat at the appropriate point should help. It can do double duty as a sit pad too.

Re: Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:07 pm
by Borderer
I had that same trouble with the same mat last week. I had a reflective sheet under the mat which really should have solved the problem, but it didn't help. In the end I put an extra layer (a padded gilet) between my hip and the mat and that worked.

Re: Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:12 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I had a reflective sheet under the mat which really should have solved the problem,
If it's just a reflective sheet, then it'll make no difference at all because they have no insulation properties. CCF, bubblewrap or even reflective bubblewrap will work :wink:

Re: Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:38 pm
by Borderer
Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:12 pm
I had a reflective sheet under the mat which really should have solved the problem,
If it's just a reflective sheet, then it'll make no difference at all because they have no insulation properties. CCF, bubblewrap or even reflective bubblewrap will work :wink:
I have this one. I bought it off someone on here a while ago.

https://www.treadlitegear.co.uk/ripstop ... r-88-p.asp

Re: Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:44 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I have this one. I bought it off someone on here a while ago.

https://www.treadlitegear.co.uk/ripstop ... r-88-p.asp
From what I can tell Bridget, that has little or no insulation value. You lose very little heat to the ground via radiation.

Re: Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:53 pm
by summittoppler
As we're on the topic and not waiting to hijack the thread, quick question....

I was tempted to bag my first 'snow camp' the other night but jibbed out. If in a tent or under a tarp, what do you suggest going under the mat which would reduce the cold coming through?
My mat is an Exped Lite 5M which hasn't given me any issues previously. Thanks

Re: Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:57 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Some laminate floor ccf underlay will work Jeff but a mat with an R value (old standard) of 4 or more should be okay on snow.

Re: Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:00 pm
by summittoppler
Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:57 pm Some laminate floor ccf underlay will work Jeff but a mat with an R value (old standard) of 4 or more should be okay on snow.
Thanks Stu.
So is that the foamy stuff about 3mm thick that can be rolled?

Re: Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:07 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
That's the stuff Jeff.

Re: Sleeping mat cold spot.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:09 pm
by benp1
I use a CCF sit mat regularly, would work well for an extra bit of hip insulation

I used my thermarest neoair with a CCF mat on snow. Have since upgraded to an xtherm and would happily use that directly on snow