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Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:32 pm
by redefined_cycles
Moder-dye wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:52 pm Redefined cycles, you do a 3 hour bike commute? Each way? :shock:

Wow! that's something pegged onto a working day, never mind fasting during the day :-bd
Not always each way... sadly, but I do try and aim for it :smile: Been working up to it since my first commutes of a few miles on the mtb in 2000ish...

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:13 pm
by lune ranger
The no water part is harsh. In the context of cycling it’s worth remembering that right up into the 60’s the commonly held belief was that ‘too much’ water during exercise was a bad thing and that it led to cramps. TdF cyclists would often be limited to a single piss bottle for an entire stage of the race :roll:

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:02 pm
by Moder-dye
Well I had a nose (bag) dive this afternoon :oops:

Had a great 1.5hr hilly road ride last night, but then a restless night with the knee on one leg and the wrenched big toe (that I practically dislocated two weeks ago in a stupid bike related incident) on the other keeping me awake.

Still cracked on with work at the kitchen table office today before heading out with an overly sensible lunch in my bag to check on some path works and meet a crofter. By the time I got home with the walking and driving my toe was really killing and I was starving.

By 3pm I'd made myself two minute steak rolls, eaten a bag of hoola hoops and then a bowl of shredded wheats :shock: The perils of working from home!

Summoning all myself control I said NO to tea when my wife came home (confessing my sins) and miraculously have still kept to my daily calories,so not all is lost!

And despite being pissed off as I'm sofa bound on a nice evening to rest toe and knee I've just refused homemade popcorn too!

The main culprit I think was a low cal day yesterday followed by an evening ride with no food during or after, then bad sleep and a grumpy bear due to being caged up with poorly paws.

Anyway the takeaway is that a dive in the trough doesn't need to mean you wallow in there. I must be a reformed character :-bd

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:25 am
by Moder-dye
26/12/2020: 121.7kg
1/1/2021: 117.7kg
8/1/2021: 116.8kg
15/1/2021: 115.5kg
22/1/2021: 113.6kg
29/1/2021: 113.1kg
5/2/2021:. 112.2kg
12/2/2021: 111.7kg
19/2/2021: 110.5kg
26/2/2021: 110.4kg
5/3/2021: 110.2kg
12/3/2021:108.4kg
19/3/2021: 107.8kg
26/3/2021: 106.6kg
2/4/2021: 106.6kg
9/4/2021: 105.9kg
17/4/2021: 105.5kg
23/4/2021: 104.8kg
30th April: 104.8kg

Exactly the same this week!

Still within cals, even my birthday I didn't go over maintenance Cal's and I've done more exercise!

Maybe a whoosh to come?

:sad:

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:59 am
by lune ranger
2.4.21: 82kg
9.2.21: 81.3kg
16.2.21: 79.3kg
23.4.21 79.4kg
30.4.21 77.1kg

Whopping loss this week - arguably too much. Great discipline all week and 3x 1200 kcal days to top it off. Belly fat visibly falling away.

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:51 am
by redefined_cycles
Last night I completed my fast with all the food the missus had put in my lunchbox/bag. So came time to start the fast at 0300ish I hadn't any food. Trawled across to the vending machine and it hadn't be restocked.

Then I had a plan, I wasn't gonna let discipline and self-control hold me back and ordered an Uber. Never arrived so I called the place who said order hadn't come through. Time would have been too tight to order over the phone then so I settled with 2 mochas from the vending machine. Free n'all. 500ml of bottled water and I was done.

Bet I've lost summat for this morning, will check as soon as I gets in... God Willing

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:53 am
by redefined_cycles
Moder-dye wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:25 am 26/12/2020: 121.7kg
1/1/2021: 117.7kg
8/1/2021: 116.8kg
15/1/2021: 115.5kg
22/1/2021: 113.6kg
29/1/2021: 113.1kg
5/2/2021:. 112.2kg
12/2/2021: 111.7kg
19/2/2021: 110.5kg
26/2/2021: 110.4kg
5/3/2021: 110.2kg
12/3/2021:108.4kg
19/3/2021: 107.8kg
26/3/2021: 106.6kg
2/4/2021: 106.6kg
9/4/2021: 105.9kg
17/4/2021: 105.5kg
23/4/2021: 104.8kg
30th April: 104.8kg

Exactly the same this week!

Still within cals, even my birthday I didn't go over maintenance Cal's and I've done more exercise!

Maybe a whoosh to come?

:sad:
You realised you've lost 17kg in 4 months. Bet you'll need a new wardrobe soon :-bd well done

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:42 am
by FLV
Well done indeed!!

For me lately it seems I can maintain (with a bit of fluctuation) and carry on scoffing loads of buttery toast and pie. Which is fine if I wanted to stay at my current weight (having lost a lump in 2020) but I don't.

So, a couple of days ago I returned to my methodology from this time last year. Basically I seem to be able to get losses if I monitor my weight almost daily. I think its the knowledge that self judgement is coming first thing in the morning.
I'll also be back to monitoring on here. From my data last year, I dont expect much actual loss for the first week or so, then some progress.

I'll keep my 21 start but I am ignoring everything else and starting again today.

So, here we go. :-bd
Target - 90kg

Start 2021, 97.7kg
30/04/21, 98.1kg

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:16 am
by Moder-dye
Cheers :-bd yeh, mustn't forget the overall picture!

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:41 am
by Loki
Great work all, got to admit, I slept through my weigh in today, I will weigh in next Friday, to be honest I prefer a two week check in as it takes the stress off my shoulders.

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:51 am
by redefined_cycles
Well done Dave and welcome back. (The rest edit n deleted :smile: :o )

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:04 am
by Richard G
01/01/21: 72.5kg
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16/04/21: 61.5kg (-0.5kg)
23/04/21: 60.6kg (-0.9kg)
30/04/21: 60.6kg (-0.0kg)

Target: Maintain between 59 and 61kg until 12/06/21.
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Added in another 100kcal last week, and had a few bad days (still pretty depressed) so I'll take flat overall. I'll probably add the extra 100kcal again on Monday but that'll likely be it, as I'm fairly sure that'll result in some weight gain.

Badly need to improve sleep / reduce stress.

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:14 am
by redefined_cycles
85.9kg (Jan 1st)
84.0kg (Jan 8th)
83.1kg (Jan 15th)
84.0kg (Jan 29th)
83.5kg (just... 6th Feb)
83.9kg (12/2/2021)
84.3kg (19/2/2021)
84.5kg (27/2/2021)
83.6kg (12/3/2021)
85.5kg (23/3/2021)
83.7kg (23/4/2021)
82.5kg (30/4/2020) - early morning Ubereats failed delivery but still charged: turns out it was a good deal! (but now refunded within 24H of the issue)

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:02 pm
by Richard G
Loki wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:41 am Great work all, got to admit, I slept through my weigh in today, I will weigh in next Friday, to be honest I prefer a two week check in as it takes the stress off my shoulders.
Surely double the stress next week?

I'm a big believer in daily weigh-ins with an eye kept on a rolling average. Individual days can fluctuate anywhere up to 2-3kg in my experience (especially after a very long ride, both up and down). Catch an up on the wrong weekly weigh in and you're left with an impression that you've done a ton worse than you probably actually have.

One of the advantages of modern smart scales, if you can't deal with seeing the daily number bounce around you can just cover the display and have your phone collect the data and then check the rolling average on a weekly basis (I believe both iPhone and Android support this).

You can even get specific apps that can calculate what's going on in the background... https://happyscale.com/

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 10:27 am
by PaulB2
I had breakfast yesterday without thinking about it so didn’t weigh myself until this morning.

16/4/2021 70.0
23/4/2021 70.0
1/5/2021 70.3

It’s not been a good week since it looks like I didn’t give myself enough time after hurting my ankle and now it’s worse than it was before. The good news is that after 3 weeks of not rigorously tracking every single calorie I’ve got a feel for what my maintenance level is, the bad news is that I’m still aiming for 2-3 kg more.

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:16 pm
by FLV
Richard G wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:02 pm
Surely double the stress next week?

I'm a big believer in daily weigh-ins with an eye kept on a rolling average. Individual days can fluctuate anywhere up to 2-3kg in my experience (especially after a very long ride, both up and down). Catch an up on the wrong weekly weigh in and you're left with an impression that you've done a ton worse than you probably actually have.

One of the advantages of modern smart scales, if you can't deal with seeing the daily number bounce around you can just cover the display and have your phone collect the data and then check the rolling average on a weekly basis (I believe both iPhone and Android support this).

You can even get specific apps that can calculate what's going on in the background... https://happyscale.com/
Can I ask what advantages you get from modern scales please?
I've got some pretty aging super basic ones, they don't really tell me anything other than a kg number to one dp. After I finally get them to turn on by pulling the battery in and out.

I then type the number into a tracker on excel, with accompanying graph obviously.

I keep thinking of replacing but have resisted to date.

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:42 pm
by Richard G
FLV wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 12:16 pm Can I ask what advantages you get from modern scales please?
I've got some pretty aging super basic ones, they don't really tell me anything other than a kg number to one dp. After I finally get them to turn on by pulling the battery in and out.

I then type the number into a tracker on excel, with accompanying graph obviously.

I keep thinking of replacing but have resisted to date.
Largely inaccurate fat percentage calculations aside, the only meaningful advantage was what I stated. They'll allow you to track your weight without actively paying attention to the daily number (handy if you get emotionally affected by it).

I don't actually use a smart scale, but mostly by virtue of not wanting to buy one until multi-frequency BIA scales become more reasonably priced... but people seem happy enough with the crappy accuracy on normal BIA scales, so I don't think that's ever going to happen.

Like you, I do the excel spreadsheet method, but I don't get overly stressed about individual numbers (mostly because I've been doing this stuff for years so I understand the fluctuations well).

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 6:29 pm
by redefined_cycles
82.1g

Just a random one off weight.

[Edit: after a night shift yesterday > only drank 700ml water and possibly not enough calories either > just trying to manage the light dehydration headache now for next few hours before a good glug or 2 of water... lots of it God Willing]

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:10 pm
by ledburner
redefined_cycles wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:29 pm 82.1g

Just a random one off weight.

[Edit: after a night shift yesterday > only drank 700ml water and possibly not enough calories either > just trying to manage the light dehydration headache now for next few hours before a good glug or 2 of water... lots of it God Willing]
Light head ache, I'm surprised your not dust :???: :-O
Golly gosh you've lost 82kg. :YMAPPLAUSE:
Still 82.1Kg is impressive aswell

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:29 am
by redefined_cycles
ledburner wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 9:10 pm
redefined_cycles wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:29 pm 82.1g

Just a random one off weight.

[Edit: after a night shift yesterday > only drank 700ml water and possibly not enough calories either > just trying to manage the light dehydration headache now for next few hours before a good glug or 2 of water... lots of it God Willing]
Light head ache, I'm surprised your not dust :???: :-O
Golly gosh you've lost 82kg. :YMAPPLAUSE:
Still 82.1Kg is impressive aswell
:lol: still alive. Made it through and started the next. Had 1.3L of water in 3 gulps (lots of glugs). Felt good

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:29 am
by gairym
07-05-21 - 116kg
23-04-21 - 114.5kg
09-04-21 - 115kg
19-03-21 - 113.8kg
12-03-21 - 114.4kg
05-03-21 - 114.3kg
26-02-21 - 115kg
05-02-21 - 112.5kg
22-01-21 - 114.3kg
01-01-21 - 115.4kg
gairym wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:29 amGently undulating between 114-116kg recently.
Another week of absolute inactivity due to having a vasectomy (bright purple ballooning only just subsiding and things still too tender to ride and that's without considering increased chance of infection from hot sweatiness etc...).

On the plus side I've been comfort eating like a mother flipper! :-bd

Mostly staying sensible with booze though and very, VERY keen and motivated to double down and get back on top of things just as soon as I can get back in the saddle.....

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:31 am
by Moder-dye
26/12/2020: 121.7kg
1/1/2021: 117.7kg
8/1/2021: 116.8kg
15/1/2021: 115.5kg
22/1/2021: 113.6kg
29/1/2021: 113.1kg
5/2/2021:. 112.2kg
12/2/2021: 111.7kg
19/2/2021: 110.5kg
26/2/2021: 110.4kg
5/3/2021: 110.2kg
12/3/2021:108.4kg
19/3/2021: 107.8kg
26/3/2021: 106.6kg
2/4/2021: 106.6kg
9/4/2021: 105.9kg
17/4/2021: 105.5kg
23/4/2021: 104.8kg
30/4/2021: 104.8kg
7/5/2021; 103.7kg

Another 1.1kg off :-bd

Gairym: ouch :shock: you're right to be cautious. I had an infection despite being super careful. Ended up off for a month and on two courses of strong antibiotics as the wound wouldn't heal :cry: Worst thing is after all that the fekking thing didn't work! They offered to redo it. I declined!

Worst bit was stood there with my pants around my ankles getting the wound swabbed, by the GP who son was in my son's class. A touch embarrassing!

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:45 am
by gairym
Moder-dye wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 7:31 am Gairym: ouch you're right to be cautious. I had an infection despite being super careful. Ended up off for a month and on two courses of strong antibiotics as the wound wouldn't heal Worst thing is after all that the fekking thing didn't work! They offered to redo it. I declined!

Worst bit was stood there with my pants around my ankles getting the wound swabbed, by the GP who son was in my son's class. A touch embarrassing!
Ouchy!!!

I'm fairly optimistic it'll work as he removed two 20mm sections of the vasa deferentia, cortorised the ends and then showed me the bits he took out (before throwing them in the bin when I said I didn't want to take them home with me - I thought about it, maybe setting them in epoxy and creating a piece of jewelry for Mrs Gairy)

Surely it's got to work done that way, no?

Because there is NO WAY I am going through that again!!!

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:49 am
by Moder-dye
You'd think it would! :lol:

I don't know the details. I went in for a local, but after a good grope he decided it would be better under a GA for both of us as the piping seemed awkward. Numbers were down in the after tests, but not gone. All the best with the recovery.

Re: Fat Fighters 2021

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:55 am
by Loki
Start 144kg
8/01/21 - 144kg
22/01/21 - 148kg
29/01/21 - 147kg
11/02/21 - 147kg
19/02/21 - 141.5kg
26/02/21 - 146kg
12/03/21 - EEK
19/03/21 - 143.3kg
09/04/21 - 144.5kg
23/04/21 - 145.2kg
07/05/21 - 145kg

Still making progress, after a rough couple of weeks, settling into a Dairy free diet, it seems my body was not liking dairy much anymore.