In Reverse wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:03 pm Yep. Bought a set of Jones cuts specifically so I could slide bar ends onto the front,

Ah, didn't realise Jones did a set like that - basically what I was thinking of doing to my Confucius. Interesting what you're both saying about it being too short - I did wonder. Would be good if I could find a way to try something out before I commit with the hacksaw. Duct tape may be involved

The Crazy bars look like they'd be too wide for a comfortable leaning position? And probably also too short.

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:31 pm

Have you tried the VO Casey's Crazy bars?

One of my favourie bars. Not quite as good as these but still very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-p4gXvs3AU

thanks Stu, that made my lunch break!

The Crazy bars look like they'd be too wide for a comfortable leaning position? And probably also too short.

The extensions work surprisingly well. You're not going to go into a full aero tuck but on a mountainbike you're probably not going to anyway - I always find aero bars on a mtb to be too low and oddly, too narrow. The crazy bars do pop your elbows out a bit but they're very comfy.

I'm not sure the Crazy bars are designed for aero, it's more the inbound/extra hand position that James and ScotRoutes were discussing. It's an excellent position for long rides tbf. I found it great for climbing. The alloy bars are a bit too stiff for my delicate hands though, and the steel ones are pretty heavy.

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:47 pm

The Crazy bars look like they'd be too wide for a comfortable leaning position? And probably also too short.

The extensions work surprisingly well. You're not going to go into a full aero tuck but on a mountainbike you're probably not going to anyway - I always find aero bars on a mtb to be too low and oddly, too narrow. The crazy bars do pop your elbows out a bit but they're very comfy.

You're quite right. And yes, standard aero bars on a mountain bike are usually too low. You can get risers, but they're quite expensive. Would be interesting to try the Crazy bars, but I'm not opening that can of worms. Again.

I've used standard aero bars on a MTB with some success. I've done it when I've had a big route with lots of road sections. I reckon they are worth 2, maybe 3, gears.

thats a weird thing indeed

Yeah, what idiot goes jousting without a helmet?

a confident one

Either that or someone who knows that their lance won't shatter into a thousand sharp splinters of wood.

Back on the other photo, is that a rohloff shifter that's been mounted on the stem faceplate?

Looks like it. A stem plate twist-grip Narwhal.

Is that a telescopic lance?

PaulB2 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:10 pm Either that or someone who knows that their lance won't shatter into a thousand sharp splinters of wood.

Back on the other photo, is that a rohloff shifter that's been mounted on the stem faceplate?

Negative for Rohloff.
It’s a Pinion P1.12 shifter.

lune ranger wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:00 am

PaulB2 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:10 pm Either that or someone who knows that their lance won't shatter into a thousand sharp splinters of wood.

Back on the other photo, is that a rohloff shifter that's been mounted on the stem faceplate?

Negative for Rohloff.
It’s a Pinion P1.12 shifter.

James I think you owe us all an explanation ... or at least a few more pics of that bike. Yeah?

Just saw the bike online somewhere. Pinion, drop bars and 700x40s with aero bar/pole. Lauf fork. No idea what was going on tbh :)

Maybe they thought that with the Lauf the bike would be gopping anyway so they might as well go for broke.

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:55 pm You can do something similar with a set of old bar ends Dave ... no one will ever know once they're wrapped.

I was gonna say there's gotta be a cheaper alternative than 95$ surley, two sticks maybe, but good sticks