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Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:43 am
by redefined_cycles
Seems like I have 3 (sort of) triangles to work with. The top hole is probably a bit small and pointless to have a bag made for it. Although I had originally intended to ask Stu if he could come up with summat in DCF he might still have lying about spare. I'd imagine he'll probably say that its an exercise in pointlessness...

Without further ado, heres the frame triangle I'm planning to try build a bag for. Am thinking I should be able to get away with 2 bags but worried the shock might not be able to compress properly... Thoughts, suggestions and past experience with single pivot BPing bags (other way round but you know what I mean) most appreciated...

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Am also thinking I really might need to utilise the underneath of the downtube to try and get something similar to one of them beerBabe type bags seated there...

Thanks in advance

Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:10 am
by Bearbonesnorm
You would get a bag below the shock Shaf but personally, I'd look at ways of gaining a little* more capacity somewhere else or, take the opportunity to fully embrace the TLS ethos :wink:


*that's all you'll get with a frame bag.

Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:52 am
by PaulE
If you turn the shock over, so the pro-pedal lever is facing up not down then you might fit a bag on some kind of cage on the downtube? Clearance with the top tube looks tight though.

Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:57 am
by redefined_cycles
Thanks Stu... so, you personally don't think its a big enough area to bother with a framebag there...

TLS sounds appealing and utilising the bars and saddle packs with a backpack for hydration sounds reasonable...

Only reason am thinking of framebag is that I've grown fomd of carrying water on the bike and think i might be able squeeze 2 litres there... :smile:

Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:12 am
by whitestone
What's the frame made of Shaf? If Aluminium you could fit a set of three Rivnuts under the down tube and fit an anything cage there. But be wary of how much the front wheel moves towards the downtube under compression.

Other than that I think a frame bag will be an exercise in cost and frustration. Maybe have a look at fitting a top tube bag in there.

Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:19 am
by ScotRoutes
You'd want to let all of the air out of that shock and fully compress the suspension in order to see just how much room you have. I suspect not very much.

Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:29 am
by redefined_cycles
whitestone wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:12 am What's the frame made of Shaf? If Aluminium you could fit a set of three Rivnuts under the down tube and fit an anything cage there. But be wary of how much the front wheel moves towards the downtube under compression.

Other than that I think a frame bag will be an exercise in cost and frustration. Maybe have a look at fitting a top tube bag in there.
Thats very smart... Thanks Bob. I wonder which topTube bags have some decent large capacity over 1.5L :???:

Might not drill any holes for rivnuts though Bob (for the mo) as am treating it as something that I can log on to Retro bike with in a few years. Certainly looks retro now :-bd

Colin, thanks for that tip. I actually thought of that this am whilst thinking how to assess for capacities (in case I could fit a small bag in there with tools and fit/forget)...

Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:05 am
by sean_iow
Will you need to be able to access the shock lock-out? If the bag extends down past the shock then will the top have to be secured to the shock body? I made mine to only fill the area above the shock and it's big enough for a pump/tube/multi-tool and some quick-links. Your frame looks like that part might be smaller than the same area on the Spearfish so the bag would be very small?

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Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:39 am
by FLV
You could likely fit a small custom bag, or something like a 1.1L wolftooth bag. Not sure you'd get a bladder bag in there

Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:28 pm
by mfezela
The RP23 functions perfectly well, inverted and rotated. You may need to swap over the eyelet bushings. Easy to do.
A benefit of this new position for me is that rotating the lockout lever clockwise has the same action as on my fork. Clockwise = Lock, Anticlockwise = Unlock.
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Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:36 pm
by redefined_cycles
mfezela wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:28 pm The RP23 functions perfectly well, inverted and rotated. You may need to swap over the eyelet bushings. Easy to do.
A benefit of this new position for me is that rotating the lockout lever clockwise has the same action as on my fork. Clockwise = Lock, Anticlockwise = Unlock.

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Smart thinking... thanks :-bd

Re: Framebag design for this

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:59 pm
by Cheddar Man
Just buy a bigger Camelbak.