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Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:52 pm
by restlessshawn
400mm ish axle to crown
45mm ish offset

Skinny steel, unicrown, straight leg
Light and comfortable, 800g ish ?
Not overbuilt with rack mounts , bosses , mudguard mounts, nine of that shenanigans.

Straight steerer
QR
Post mount would be ideal
Good clearance for 42mm tyre

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:08 am
by Bearlegged
What sort of brake?
Off the top of my head, I've not seen owt that light, but sure you could tick all the other boxes.

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:11 am
by restlessshawn
Sorry disc , post mount ideally
Something substantially sub 1kg must be possible?

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:14 am
by lune ranger
You could get that built easily enough. A Surly Krampus fork or steel Salsa Firestarter is about 1.1kg so iā€™m Sure you could get your spec under a kilo.

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:33 am
by ScotRoutes
The rare triple-butted Kona P2 fork would have been in that sort of category. I'd have thought that a few of the custom frame builders would have been able to fabricate one.

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:49 am
by Bearbonesnorm
I thought 'Surly disc trucker' but having looked it's not straight-legged and the numbers are a little off.

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:01 am
by Bearbonesnorm

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:14 am
by restlessshawn
Yep lots of close but none quite there :smile: and none of them quote a weight

I did pick up a kona p2 disc fork without realising that there were much heavier versions as the one I got was well over 1000g, maybe I should just watch ebay and hope for a butted version to appear one day!

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:15 am
by stevenshand
restlessshawn wrote: ā†‘Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:52 pm 400mm ish axle to crown
45mm ish offset

Skinny steel, unicrown, straight leg
Light and comfortable, 800g ish ?
Not overbuilt with rack mounts , bosses , mudguard mounts, nine of that shenanigans.

Straight steerer
QR
Post mount would be ideal
Good clearance for 42mm tyre
The older Shand Stoater forks were pretty much this (405 ATC, 45 offset, but ISO disk mount). 760g I recall. Most had rack.guard mounts though not overbuilt. Same as what you see on these bikes :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/shandcycl ... 2634857894

We built hundreds and hundreds of these so you may get lucky finding 2nd hand. New ones unfortunately are much heavier and thru-axle.

Steven

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:29 am
by restlessshawn
That would be pretty much perfect without the rack mounts. How come they are now heavier?

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:31 am
by ScotRoutes
CEN standards?

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:38 am
by stevenshand
restlessshawn wrote: ā†‘Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:29 am How come they are now heavier?
Shand don't make them anymore, they're Taiwanese. Heavier steerer and blades.

The original ones actually used some custom drawn blades that I designed (one reason they rode so well and were so light). Those blades will all be gone now but I did sell a load to Steve Garro at Coconino Cycles (http://www.coconinocycles.com/). I don't know if still has any and would consider making you a fork but might be worth a shout.

This was all a few years ago and there may be similar blades available to framebuilders now. Mine were made when disk brakes on road/gravel bikes were pretty rare and the only real blades that could stand up to disk brake forces were tandem blades that rode like crap.

Steven

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:43 am
by chris n
The old Salsa Vaya fork is the closest I've seen, if a bit heavy: https://salsacycles.com/components/cate ... _road_fork

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:58 am
by restlessshawn
I know this is really bonkers and sadly this is how my mind works but if I don't have mudguard eyes and rack mounts on the frame I can't have them on the fork :oops: :roll: I can't help it though

I can see this escalating in to a whole new bike (in addition to the other 3) :wink:

Re: Does this CX (gravel) fork exist...or is it possible to get a fork made ?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:42 pm
by stevenshand
restlessshawn wrote: ā†‘Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:58 am I know this is really bonkers and sadly this is how my mind works but if I don't have mudguard eyes and rack mounts on the frame I can't have them on the fork :oops: :roll: I can't help it though

I can see this escalating in to a whole new bike (in addition to the other 3) :wink:
If you can find a fork that works, any decent framebuilder would remove and plug any an unwanted brazeons (you'd need a repaint obvs). I'd do it for you for a beer and a charity donation.

Those Vaya forks were on clearance from QBP a while ago at something like 20USD. Can't see them listed on the B2B anymore though.