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Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:54 pm
by PaulB2
I've checked my winter wardrobe and the only winter gloves I have are some (very) old gloves I used a few times snowboarding which will probably do the job but aren't waterproof. Does anyone have any waterproof winter glove recommendations for UK weather?

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:35 pm
by RIP
One end of scale : Stu's marigolds.
Other end: Dissent 1-3-3.

S*z actually make you wetter whatever the external conditions are. Strange but true.

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:37 pm
by TheBrownDog
Ive tried dozens of sorts and they all have pros and cons. For me, but certainly by no means for everyone, the SealSkinz winter gloves I bought about 5 years ago are still my go-to gloves for cold wet riding. I dont think they make the model I have anymore, but their website has a pretty wide selection. Just make sure whatever you get has long, long cuffs that you can tuck under your jacket. Only issue is that they can get pretty sweaty, which means you have to be uber careful getting them off, or the inners come out with your fingers and you're left with a truly difficult operation to get them back in. Takes ages and seriously not fun if you're mid ride.

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:39 pm
by TheBrownDog
Knew Reg'd be along plugging the Dissent system. I swear, he's on some sort of retainer with them. Bloody nice looking gloves though.

https://www.dissent133.com/collections/ ... ove-system

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:46 pm
by Mike
Iv just bought some 133s just the waterproof outer and I must say with my inner liner my hands were nice N toasty the last 2 days. Not sure how waterproof they will be though.

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:53 pm
by RIP
Yeah I dunno why I gave them a plug! Hopefully they'll spot it and gimme an extra free pair. I was plugging maris there too of course - and a load of free pairs of those would be a lot more useful TBH. You must have done something special to your S*z Tim - I've had somewhere between two and a million pairs over the years and they were all a bit hopeless (yes I know that begs the question "why did you keep buying them then?").

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:53 pm
by sean_iow
How long are you going to be riding in the rain for? I've tried quire a few types...

Dissent 133, kept my hands dry for maybe the first 3 hours of the BB300 but I could still get them on and off

Brisker 100% waterproof, lasted maybe an hour on a soaking wet ridgeway, my hands were damp when I first put them on and this was very difficult, almost impossible to get on/off after that, led to my eventual bailing after 2 days and not having the use of my hands/any feeling in my fingers :cry: I had to warm my hands in a basin of hot water at a campsite to be able to pitch my tarp to then spend a night shivering in my bivi before the wife made a 120 mile round trip (inducing a ferry) to rescue me

Sealskins, quite an old model, do keep my hands relatively warm but not completely dry, cant be taken on and off once wet.

Toughbags, goretex mitts, keep the hands dry :-bd but are only an overmitt, need to wear gloves underneath to keep your hands warm and as they are a mitt riding is a touch tricky on technical terrain :roll:

I was chatting to Javi about the glove issue on the BB300, the only guaranteed way to issolate your hands from the rain will be marigolds/nitrile/latex type gloves but the trade off is your hands will be wet from sweat, but they may still be warm. I'll be packing a pair of nitrile gloves on all future multi-day trips just in case.

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:02 pm
by RIP
Good call on the Tuff Bags there Sean - got some of those as well but I still haven't resolved, despite extensive experimentation late into the night, the issue of how to put them on and get the cuffs under any jacket that I'm wearing. Was a thread (me ;-) waffling on about this a while ago. The only easy way is put them on first, then the jacket so that the TB cuffs stay inside the jacket sleeves. But of course you want to put them on when it's pouring with rain, so taking the jacket off to do so is, erm.....

Might try wearing the TB's on top of the Dissents and see what happens!

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:13 pm
by sean_iow
It was you who recommended to me the 'jacket off - gloves on - jacket back on' solution to the cuffs :grin: I have found that even with the cuffs outside the jacket if I have the drawstring closed they keep the water out, I guess when riding not as much water runs down your arm as if you were walking.

The Dissents kept my hands relatively warm. The silk liners under toughbags might be a good shout on easier terrain and milder weather?

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:16 pm
by voodoo_simon
Specialised Elements for wet weather and Specialzied Deflects for cold weather (I think that’s the way round!) and of course, pogies for ‘proper’ winter

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:25 pm
by middleagedmadness
I've tried quite a few Paul ,the sealskins wet out after about 2hrs and as said can't get them off without them turning inside out , now I just settle for wet but warm hands in some mountain equipment belay gloves as soon as it's starts to drop to around zero ,anything below that it's normal gloves with some hotpogs

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:26 pm
by benp1
I reckon I have over 30 pairs of gloves in total. I'm not exaggerating. Motorcycling, cycling, walking, man-about-town :grin: etc

I have the tuffbag mitts too!

Still not found the perfect winter glove set up. The problem is the whacking great hole you have to put your hand into. Some problem as socks

My best cold, wet bikepacking set up is 100% brisker gloves (or a similar non-waterproof, mildly warm glove) and pogies. They cope brilliantly like this

Last weekend in the wet but not cold I used 100% brisker gloves, they were often wet though. When I got to the bivi spot I used a pair of montane prism gloves to keep my hands warm (bad circulation)

Have also used skytec argon gloves, favoured by money conscious winter climbers. They're not waterproof but they're warm and cheap

I have some Rab glove for winter mountain stuff and I reckon these would be great on the bike (less insulation on the palms/fingers, more on the back, waterproof without the horrible lining etc), but I reckon I'd ruin them on the bike and if they got really wet they'd probably takes ages to dry out

(I'm still looking for lobster gloves that don't have the inner fingers. Lost my last pair and my other pair have the inners, which are frankly stupid and annoying)

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:33 pm
by sean_iow
benp1 wrote:Last weekend in the wet but not cold I used 100% brisker gloves, they were often wet though. When I got to the bivi spot I used a pair of montane prism gloves to keep my hands warm (bad circulation)
I've used the exact same gloves/system, works well :-bd

The 100% Brisker are the glove I wear the most, they don't keep your hands dry but do keep them warm down to say just below 10 degrees? Even when wet I can get thme on and off and they don't interfere with riding the bike, I can still use the brakes and hold the bars.

The prisms are great for camp. I did try them under my toughbags once when riding, the shiney surface and twin skin of an insulated glove makes holding on to the bars 'interesting' so best only done on flat and straight roads :lol:

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:15 pm
by PaulB2
I was looking at the 100% brisker ones or the SealSkinz Highland gloves. I've got some Altura NightVision gloves for commuting but my hands feel cold in those as the temperature gets down to zero and they didn't stay waterproof while out for 8 hours in the lakes during Storm Callum. Having to wring them out every time I stopped made me fall out of love with those.

I could of course just save money by using my snowboarding ones, accept that my hands might get wet but stay warm and just take a set of thermal liner gloves for off the bike.

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:35 pm
by johnnystorm
Glacier Glove Perfect Curves are great but sweaty and being all neoprene are terrible for wiping your nose on.

Galibier Barriers are good too and have nosewipe sections and are "cycling" goves but will eventually give into the rain, better than sealskins though that are just hopeless.

Skytec argons for a fiver from screwfix as mentioned above are far better than many an expensive glove I've tried! :-bd

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:45 pm
by benp1
I was planning to buy a pair of the galibiers to try but when I last checked they were about to introduce an updated version so i was planning to wait for them

Really like the prisms, pack down small and are toasty warm. Figured they'd be good as backup on any cold or winter walks

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:52 pm
by redefined_cycles
I have the Crikey, how much deep winter ones whivh kept me nice for last years Rapha500 (I call it Solo 313 as thats tge miles I did for charity over a few days). They were waterproof and breatehd well but the price is :roll:

The year before on same ride I did with my Northface gaunlets and rode through the Peaks in around 2 degrees C or less. They kept me warm but not breathable cos fully proof and shell.

I would find whichever has the Outdry lining as thats what the Crikey, how much come with and it works. I think I found which other versions have Ourdry lining but I forget...

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:54 pm
by redefined_cycles
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/Crikey, how much-deep-wint ... UUQAvD_BwE

Looks like they now on Wiggle for cheap. I would say at 66 its a good deal. They worked well for me

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:16 pm
by Fat tyre kicker
A good combo is Buffalo mitts ( v warm ) with Dpm army surplus goretex
Mitts ( v dry) over the top, dexterity isn't the best but works well

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:47 pm
by PJG
I'll stick in a vote for pogies - they'll keep your hands warm & dry in most conditions. Just wear a pair of full finger summer gloves underneath.

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:51 pm
by PJG
Oh yeah - and the Aldi thinsulate lobster mitts are very warm and cost next to nothing if you can find a pair in stock..

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:50 am
by Robster
Bright yellow Carnac gloves from Planet X. Haven't tried them in really cold weather but I was surprised by the warmth and not feeling the wind.

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CLCGC/car ... per-gloves

Probably not for really cold weather but time will tell.

I've also got their 365 race gloves that seem to be warm when wet.

Cheers

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:24 am
by Al
No ones mentioned these yet. I got some showers pass gloves last winter in the sale. The water proof membrane is bonded to the shell rather than bring ‘lose’ inside. Without others I’ve had this isn’t the case and whilst they don’t always leak the outer layers end up holding onto a lot of water and reducing the effectiveness of the insulation. They have a merino liner that’s also bonded to the glove so they aren’t a nightmare to get on and off with wet hands unlike the sealskinz.
Not cheap, but really well thought out.
I’ll try and find a link....

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:24 am
by Al
No ones mentioned these yet. I got some showers pass gloves last winter in the sale. The water proof membrane is bonded to the shell rather than bring ‘lose’ inside. With other winter gloves I’ve had this isn’t the case and whilst they don’t always leak the outer layers end up holding onto a lot of water and reducing the effectiveness of the insulation. They have a thin merino liner that’s also bonded to the glove so they aren’t a nightmare to get on and off with wet hands unlike the sealskinz. You can get a liner glove in too if it’s proper chilly.
Not cheap, but really well thought out.
I’ll try and find a link....

https://showerspass.co.uk/products/mens ... l-wp-glove

Re: Winter Gloves

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:34 am
by ScotRoutes
Winter means Pogies