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Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:28 pm
by Pirahna
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:28 am
by GregMay
Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Sharing spots with people you trust is one thing. Posting them on the web for millions to see, some of whom will likely be cockwombles is very different. You can't do that and then wonder why littering, vandalism, confrontation and general over use becomes a problem.
Completely agree with you Stu - no different than showing people cheeky trails. All feels a bit Royston Vasey some times, but it works to keep trails and locals in a semi decent state.
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:22 pm
by Ray Young
ianfitz wrote:Bearbonesnorm wrote:I miss all the good stuff! Any highlights?!
Not very exciting but it went thus;
Bloke posts pics of a night inside what is quite obviously a hide.
Another bloke asks for details, thinking it was a bothy.
Third bloke, says "go and find it yourself because that's part of the fun"
Some blokes take offence at this and say it shouldn't have been posted if he wasn't willing to share - remember, never show these blokes a pic of your girl / boy friend.
I say, "leave him alone, he went out and kindly shared his pics, you don't now own him and yeah, go and find it yourself"
Some blokes are now dischuffed and decide to search the internet and post up details to where they think said hide is - I assume in an effort to prove how good they are with Google.
I congratulate them on f**king things up in a matter of minutes.
Doesn't go down well ...
One bloke leaves some blokes and says that you shouldn't be stopping in hides anyway as it's naughty and someone might find you and tell your dad.
Before I can type FFS, post gets pulled and all blokes, wonder off to moan about something else.
I spotted that discussion and chuckled because the the bloke who posted the picture also went on that trip with a Chap who is well know in ultra distance circles. The chap tweeted similar pictures of thir trip. And, when someone asked, also the name of the nature park the bird hide is in. The strava gpx of the ride was also available
So the info is usually out there...
An upshot of all this shenanigans (after some investigation) means I may well now know the location of a bothy that I never knew existed, just got to cycle out there and see if it's where I believe it is.
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:48 pm
by mechanicaldope
just got to cycle out there and see if it's where I believe it is.
And then you'll let us know where it is? Right?
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:54 pm
by Ray Young
mechanicaldope wrote:just got to cycle out there and see if it's where I believe it is.
And then you'll let us know where it is? Right?
OK, no probs
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Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:44 pm
by Blair512
Ray Young wrote:
An upshot of all this shenanigans (after some investigation) means I may well now know the location of a bothy that I never knew existed, just got to cycle out there and see if it's where I believe it is.
Scottish winter bivvy '17?
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:37 am
by voodoo_simon
Blair512 wrote:Ray Young wrote:
An upshot of all this shenanigans (after some investigation) means I may well now know the location of a bothy that I never knew existed, just got to cycle out there and see if it's where I believe it is.
Scottish winter bivvy '17?
Don't forget to trash the place, got to keep up some form of standards these days
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:03 am
by Ray Young
voodoo_simon wrote:Blair512 wrote:Ray Young wrote:
An upshot of all this shenanigans (after some investigation) means I may well now know the location of a bothy that I never knew existed, just got to cycle out there and see if it's where I believe it is.
Scottish winter bivvy '17?
Don't forget to trash the place, got to keep up some form of standards these days
It's built of wood, we can burn it to toast marshmallows.......................................
, ow, what was that for?
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:31 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I assume this is what you were talking about when you referred to the Gerber axe in your original post Simon?
I liked this sentence too -
"Camping is commonly the method for sleeping, but those who are creatures of comfort can enjoy a proper bed in hostels and B&B's along the way". I can see the look on the proprietor's face when you plonk your axe down on the table at breakfast
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:23 pm
by voodoo_simon
Good find! I did ask her about 'leave no trace' but she didn't understand. Also asked if Gerber had given her the axe but she avoided answering the question directly!
I got the impression that in the pictures she used for the arcticle and looking at her setup, so may have taken the B+B option (or got someone else to carry her kit)
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:24 pm
by Yorlin
Sorry to bring this back, but on the 'Mountain Bothies UK' fb page* there's currently a post about a guy staying in a "bothy" that turned out to be someone's house?!
Not sure if the link will let you through if you aren't a member
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3821949 ... et&fref=nf But there's electric lights and everything in the house..! Seems the owner saw the funny side luckily.
*it's not an official MBA group but there's a lot of MO's and the like in there.
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:38 pm
by voodoo_simon
^^^
Wasn't someone called Dan that posted that?
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:02 pm
by Yorlin
Update on the bothy 'house' - a previously derelict outdoors centre that had been bought privately. It was unlocked, and the generator was off and it had a visitor's book, and had been an unofficial shelter so I guess that makes a bit more sense :D
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:30 pm
by AlasdairMc
Yorlin wrote:Update on the bothy 'house' - a previously derelict outdoors centre that had been bought privately. It was unlocked, and the generator was off and it had a visitor's book, and had been an unofficial shelter so I guess that makes a bit more sense :D
That's a lot less exciting than the 'breaking and entering' it sounded like initially.
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:33 pm
by Yorlin
AlasdairMc wrote:Yorlin wrote:Update on the bothy 'house' - a previously derelict outdoors centre that had been bought privately. It was unlocked, and the generator was off and it had a visitor's book, and had been an unofficial shelter so I guess that makes a bit more sense :D
That's a lot less exciting than the 'breaking and entering' it sounded like initially.
Most definitely! The post and pics on facebook certainly gave the impression they were in someone's house. Not very dramatic, and my bad for posting before I had all the info. It was a good story while it lasted though!
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:46 pm
by Mart
Ray Young wrote:
An upshot of all this shenanigans (after some investigation) means I may well now know the location of a bothy that I never knew existed, just got to cycle out there and see if it's where I believe it is.
All part of the fun of finding new places - I've become quite adept at piecing together info from multiple sources to validate my finds
Usually clues in photos and blogs etc when collated can add up to lead you to where to look
There are a few bothies that I know exist (seen pictures) that I have not found out yet .... the hunt continues!
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:27 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
the hunt continues!
and that Mart, is part of the fun. Having someone hold your hand and lead you to the door, ultimately detracts from the whole experience and devalues it
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:32 pm
by AlasdairMc
I went out and found the bothy Ray alludes to (with helpful clues provided), but ensured I arrived at it from the other side so I didn't show a turning point on my Strava track. The exploration, mainly carrying my fat bike through tussocks and across bog, was actually better than the bothy itself, but it was a worthwhile trip anyway.
Definitely agree on the exploration point, it's part of the fun. Riding along sheep tracks hoping they don't peter out into nothing is a good way to spend a Sunday...
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:49 pm
by MuddyPete
AlasdairMc wrote:...carrying my fat bike through tussocks and across bog, was actually better than the bothy itself...
Hmmm. You're not really selling it to me....
Re: Rant - Leave no Trace
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:45 pm
by AlasdairMc
That's kind of the point
