the bottom section is really steep, shaded and very slippery on entry to the main road.

True. I recall someone once encountering severe brake fade on that descent

Komoot is really in time with Stu. It describes this year’s route as an “Expert mountain bike ride. Advanced riding skills necessary. Some portions of the Tour may require you to carry your bike. Very good fitness required.”

Does it mention around Bugeilyn that it would be ok to maybe lose your mind?

Genuine question, whats the deal with Bugeilyn?

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:13 pm Does it mention around Bugeilyn that it would be ok to maybe lose your mind?

I think it's just a bog fest with a suggested route through it.

Genuine question, whats the deal with Bugeilyn?

It's a bridleway that has a tendency to be a bit wet in places. However on the plus side, you'll be travelling in a generally downhill direction. The scenery is stunning and there is a kind of track albeit one made by sheep.

So I've only looked at the 200, but I'm thinking... not too bad? I've crossed checked against my Veloviewer heatmap and there don't seem to be many sections that would make me give up the will to live.

I'd argue the worst of it is just how steep some of that stuff is (and the obvious Bugeilyn section).

That's quite nice to hear. Is anyone concerned about water? I'm still trying to get my head around this if there's sheep poo when I'm ready for water.

That's what filters are for no?

...says the person who was sick for two weeks after last year's BB300.

Exactly. Trusting the filter to filter the poop is hard. I'll do everything to ensure no poop hands get introduced to treated water....

I always think of you when I see shitty water. Nice thought that, isn't it.

I'm sure there was a thread on water filtration at the time.

Basically clear running water taken from above human activity/settlements, I'd include enclosed fields and livestock feeding areas in "human activity", should be fine. Check upstream for corpses (animal or human ) but only maybe 20m or so. If water courses are in flood then they will be carrying particulates, soil in other words, which will clog filters.

If the weather's like last year, just turn your face skyward and open your mouth

Filters filter poo from water.
If you get ill it’ll be from whatever sprays up from your tyres into your face or onto your bottle.

Yeah I did read the thread... Just struggle to trust my own judgement.

lune ranger wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:27 pm Filters filter poo from water.
If you get ill it’ll be from whatever sprays up from your tyres into your face or onto your bottle.

Yeah, I can pretty much remember the exact farm we went through that caused it. :(

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:55 pm That's quite nice to hear. Is anyone concerned about water? I'm still trying to get my head around this if there's sheep poo when I'm ready for water.

Start full, two water bottles, two "water" bottles full with fresh orange juice
Buy milk at the texico/coop at machynlleth
Buy milk and juice at barmouth, find some water
fill up at dolgellu, or before if my map scouting pays off.

should be grand

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:23 pm

the bottom section is really steep, shaded and very slippery on entry to the main road.

True. I recall someone once encountering severe brake fade on that descent

V brakes or discs Stu?? If disc, were they hope(less)

Richard G wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:37 pm

lune ranger wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:27 pm Filters filter poo from water.
If you get ill it’ll be from whatever sprays up from your tyres into your face or onto your bottle.

Yeah, I can pretty much remember the exact farm we went through that caused it. :(

I got cryptosporidium a couple of years back after a farmyard facial

Asposium wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:01 pm

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:55 pm That's quite nice to hear. Is anyone concerned about water? I'm still trying to get my head around this if there's sheep poo when I'm ready for water.

Start full, two water bottles, two "water" bottles full with fresh orange juice
Buy milk at the texico/coop at machynlleth
Buy milk and juice at barmouth, find some water
fill up at dolgellu, or before if my map scouting pays off.

should be grand

Shop run by the old blind lady?

'ff' - I like it. Plenty of imagery to conjure with there. Although this now seems to be playing fnarr catch-up with the BB300 Startlist thread .

RIP wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:40 pm 'ff' - I like it. Plenty of imagery to conjure with there. Although this now seems to be playing fnarr catch-up with the BB300 Startlist thread .

You want the video?

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:25 pm

Genuine question, whats the deal with Bugeilyn?

It's a bridleway that has a tendency to be a bit wet in places. However on the plus side, you'll be travelling in a generally downhill direction. The scenery is stunning and there is a kind of track albeit one made by sheep.

You make it sound almost appealing.
Nobody listen to him, it'll be sh1te

Might be stating the obvious, and telling granny how to suck eggs; however, ......

Check those disc pads.

Taylor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:38 pm

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:25 pm

Genuine question, whats the deal with Bugeilyn?

It's a bridleway that has a tendency to be a bit wet in places. However on the plus side, you'll be travelling in a generally downhill direction. The scenery is stunning and there is a kind of track albeit one made by sheep.

You make it sound almost appealing.
Nobody listen to him, it'll be sh1te

A “bit wet” from stu is get the packraft out for anyone else.

And, “travelling in a generally downhill direction” means there’s some ba5tard hike a bike section.

“A kind of track” is if you’re lucky you might find something that loosely resembles something just about rideable.

Still, on the bright side, there might be no ticks.

help why can't I download the email, I usually download and save to desktop then overlay, but it wants something to open it and if I save it there's nothing there. no download option available tia

lune ranger wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:18 pm

RIP wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:40 pm 'ff' - I like it. Plenty of imagery to conjure with there. Although this now seems to be playing fnarr catch-up with the BB300 Startlist thread .

You want the video?

That might be a bit too much for a Sunday morning . Perhaps we need an 'A-Z of Bikepacking'. That's 'F' sorted already. Any term familiar to STW is obviously excluded ('st0ked', 's£nd', 'tr@ilcentre' etc). Being us, it'd be a sort of cross between a thesaurus and a profanisaurus..