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Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:39 pm
by fatbikephil
ScotRoutes wrote:Still, April in the Highlands innit? It can be 20c one day and -5c the next.
Likewise May.....
Good effort and defo the right decision looking at the weather.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:21 am
by ScotRoutes
-2c this morning, scraping the windscreen.....
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:35 am
by Howard
I've had full blizzard whiteout (less than 18" visibility) in May. I've also set off in shorts with a completely blue sky and 4 hours later been in snow and cloud.......
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:39 pm
by metalheart
The official definition of a Scottish summer is:
Two fine days and a hailstorm.

Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:08 pm
by fatbikephil
Just got the email from Alan, 5 weeks to go.....ulp.....
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:14 pm
by whitestone
htrider wrote:Just got the email from Alan, 5 weeks to go.....ulp.....
Me too. An interesting diversion in Ft William, looks like it goes right past one of the 24hr garages.
Gear is nearly sorted, the bike's going to get a full strip down and service. Got a couple of long rides/shakedowns planned then ...
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:17 pm
by ScotRoutes
whitestone wrote:
Me too. An interesting diversion in Ft William, looks like it goes right past one of the 24hr garages.
The Soldiers Bridge is currently closed for refurbishment. I'm guessing that's the reason for the diversion.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:25 pm
by whitestone
ScotRoutes wrote:whitestone wrote:
Me too. An interesting diversion in Ft William, looks like it goes right past one of the 24hr garages.
The Soldiers Bridge is currently closed for refurbishment. I'm guessing that's the reason for the diversion.
Correct. A bit of time on t'interweb helped work things out

Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:08 am
by mountainbaker
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:53 pm
by AlasdairMc
mountainbaker wrote:
Is that what the blank space is for on the start list?
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 7:16 pm
by whitestone
I don't think so, Neil's name is there at number 34.
Things are starting to pull together

The kit is sorted out (mostly). Probably fit enough. I might even have a plan (beyond Greg May's "ride, ride more, eat, ride some more"). The goodship Solaris is about to go into dry dock for a full refit. Have reccied the northern loop (see other thread) and have done some of the southern loop all of which probably amounts to 250Km but the rest of it will be completely new to me.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 10:09 pm
by GregMay
whitestone wrote:I don't think so, Neil's name is there at number 34.
Things are starting to pull together

The kit is sorted out (mostly). Probably fit enough. I might even have a plan (beyond Greg May's "ride, ride more, eat, ride some more"). The goodship Solaris is about to go into dry dock for a full refit. Have reccied the northern loop (see other thread) and have done some of the southern loop all of which probably amounts to 250Km but the rest of it will be completely new to me.
Plans are wonderful until they fall apart. THat's the wonderful thing about ride, ride more, eat, ride some more - inherently works unless you forget to eat...or ride I suppose. Plan for the first 36hrs, then all bets are off.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:44 am
by boxelder
but the rest of it will be completely new to me
Have you reccied the vertical cow field after Loch Broom?
It's the hardest bit and never gets a mention
At least it should be dry.....
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 8:50 am
by whitestone
boxelder wrote:but the rest of it will be completely new to me
Have you reccied the vertical cow field after Loch Broom?
It's the hardest bit and never gets a mention
At least it should be dry.....
The only bit between Ullapool and Kinlochewe that I've ever been on is walking on the path down to Carnmor after doing a couple of the Munros and when climbing on the crag.
Greg - the plan goes as far as the morning of the second day, after that it's all freeform

Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:11 am
by ZeroDarkBivi
I've ridden / pushed / carried the entire route, just never in one sitting! It's great to hear feedback from recce trips as I won't have the opportunity to do this before the group start. I think there is tremendous value in planning for an event like this, not to produce a rigid schedule that will be difficult to stick to, but to know what your options are as the ride progresses. Like Neil B tweeted, study time is important, and I need to get my head into the detail of resuply opening times, potential bivi sites, 'secret' bothies, bike repair, etc. As Ian F demonstrated last year, it's about minimising time not-moving, and that needs some prior knowledge, unles you are an insomniac!
Still faffing with my bike and kit set-up, and have sacrificed new tyres for the car this month in place of a ludicrously expensive SUL bivi...!
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:31 am
by GregMay
FYI, I shall be harbinger of doom again this year. Earning my avatar once again.
Twitter feed is here for those that don't know -
https://twitter.com/ht_550?lang=en-gb
Instagram here that I'll try update with rider photos as it goes along -
https://www.instagram.com/highlandtrail/
I'm going to be in Scotland for the race this year, on Jura for the start, so updates may not be as frequent as past years. But I will make sure to update when a scratch occurs, also a general daily digest of some form. Also, usual waffle will be spouted in a more sleep deprived manner I suspect.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 11:39 am
by Alpinum
ZeroDarkBivi wrote: it's about minimising time not-moving
I thought it was about fun.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 11:46 am
by whitestone
Alpinum wrote:ZeroDarkBivi wrote: it's about minimising time not-moving
I thought it was about fun.
It can be both
One of the reasons for riding the northern loop was that I knew very little about the whole area whereas I've some (limited) knowledge of the areas further south. I know (from Trackleaders) that several people bivvied on the Glen Golly to Bealach Horn section but until you've been there it's hard to appreciate just how little shelter there is there. OK in benign conditions but I really wouldn't want to stop there in a gale. The Ledmore Traverse is similarly exposed.
I've talked with Ian F about route knowledge: in the same way that info about the classic fell running challenges like the Bob Graham Round is now widespread, the HT550 is getting better known both as a ride and about the facilities (or lack thereof) en-route. It's just happened a little quicker as it's all been in the internet age. This knowledge will only become more complete over the coming years as different accounts will slowly "fill in the blanks" so you won't find the data in one place but a bit of internet detective work will get you most of the way there. There'll be changes as businesses come and go or change hands, but generally the resupply points are well known and it's not too hard to adjust your pace to align with opening hours: I wouldn't want to arrive at Contin at 4am for example.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:07 pm
by padonbike
Have you reccied the vertical cow field after Loch Broom?
It's the hardest bit and never gets a mention
Agree Andy!!!
Variously known as "The Fisherfield Prologue" or " The Coffin Road", it is indeed a tricky little bit.
You spend more time pushing on this than the main climb out of Fisherfield to Carnmore.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:09 pm
by padonbike
Good to know Greg, hope to finally meet you there.
I've been on Jura twice with the intention of getting up to Orwell's cottage and not made it yet!
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:13 pm
by whitestone
Never got to do the Jura race in my fell running days. Never been on the island, ought to have another touring trip to the west coast sometime and visit all those smaller isles.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 1:39 pm
by GregMay
padonbike wrote:
I've been on Jura twice with the intention of getting up to Orwell's cottage and not made it yet!
I've got the bike packed to come up as well - when baby sleeps, I'm off for a ride up to the cottage and then on to the whirlpools!
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 2:40 pm
by Alpinum
whitestone wrote:Alpinum wrote:ZeroDarkBivi wrote: it's about minimising time not-moving
I thought it was about fun.
It can be both
Well I first wanted to state this;
It should be fun.
If you get most fun out of maximising efficiency - go for it.
If you get most fun out of a lunch pint and afternoon coke - go for it.
I've ridden with both and seen both at the finish and both were as happy as one can be
whitestone wrote:
One of the reasons for riding the northern loop was that I knew very little about the whole area whereas I've some (limited) knowledge of the areas further south. I know (from Trackleaders) that several people bivvied on the Glen Golly to Bealach Horn section but until you've been there it's hard to appreciate just how little shelter there is there. OK in benign conditions but I really wouldn't want to stop there in a gale. The Ledmore Traverse is similarly exposed.
Was the main reason to go back in 2016. The unknown N-loop. Alan knew I'd like it and teased me.
Must admit, I had ridden Ullapool to Scrabster past Gobernuisgach Lodge (where things get real on the N-loop) in 2015 in 2-3 °C driving rain, so knew the area a bit.
whitestone wrote:
I've talked with Ian F about route knowledge: in the same way that info about the classic fell running challenges like the Bob Graham Round is now widespread, the HT550 is getting better known both as a ride and about the facilities (or lack thereof) en-route. It's just happened a little quicker as it's all been in the internet age. This knowledge will only become more complete over the coming years as different accounts will slowly "fill in the blanks" so you won't find the data in one place but a bit of internet detective work will get you most of the way there. There'll be changes as businesses come and go or change hands, but generally the resupply points are well known and it's not too hard to adjust your pace to align with opening hours: I wouldn't want to arrive at Contin at 4am for example.
Very true. All the Blogs... and I also remember Marshall's many questions for HT550 2016 - which led to more answers I and likely others would have ever asked for.
But given some experience you might as well just start riding. In 2013 I was planning in getting to Contin for food and resupply and missed closing times by about 15 min. Not knowing what alternatives I had looked around a bit and found a hotel with restaurant in Garve. In 2016 I missed Ft. Augustus Food Services by again about 15 min (return leg) and was in need for food to take me through the night. Without even looking for proper alternatives I went for crisps at a bar. Loads of crisps. Worked well.
If you misjudge you'll not going to die.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:19 pm
by ScotRoutes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-h ... s-39803163
Take care folks.
I'd assuming tracks etc will be fine by the time you get there but it's about as dry as I can remember it being for this time of year.
Re: HT550 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 10:46 pm
by boxelder
Take care folks.
Wow - please Lord, looketh after the pie shop. Amen.