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Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:04 am
by ScotRoutes
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Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:57 pm
by 99percentchimp
Interest registered too Dave - I have been aiming to have a crack at the Cairngorms Loop for the last two years and this would be a big help (and some new lungs too but not sure you can the those on microSD card). Happy to test out the 'gorms Loop in the early Spring if it helps.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:23 pm
by Dave Barter
I really hope to have these maps nailed before Xmas with all the main loops on there.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:59 am
by danielgroves
Very much interested in these.
1) If I did this and included all of the UK ITT's would there be any interest? Let's be clear I am NOT going to sell these maps, they will be completely free BUT I ain't hosting them either, as they will end up at 1Gb+ for UK coverage. Maybe someone else could do this, or sell SD cards with the maps on, or we have some sort of model where we each agree to copy and pass on a card (like giffgaff) ?
More than happy to host them. Got plenty of boxes and bandwidth isn't an issue for me. Happy to throw together a quick page to let people just download one of them or all of them, too.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:07 pm
by Dave42w
Dave Barter wrote:I really hope to have these maps nailed before Xmas with all the main loops on there.
Just checking.
If I used these on a Garmin 800 then I wouldn't create a course for a route (big time saving and I find putting them on the device a pain as they don't always show up).
When riding I would just follow the lines. But there would be no off course warning; no stats about distance, time to go; no junction details. However, there would be POI (can I use them on an 800?)
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:13 pm
by Dave Barter
Correct Dave.
The point being that the map will show the "official" route with no tinkering at all. If I do this I can control how it is displayed and Scotroutes will tell you that I've done it in a way that the map still shows through. I could add route markers as POI's and might have a look at this, but not at the expense of keeping the map uncluttered.
This whole project really is a massive set of trade-offs to try and get something workable. We are hacking away at a map rendering featureset that has been reverse engineered as Garmin are in no hurry to release it.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:32 pm
by ScotRoutes
Dave Barter wrote:Correct Dave.
The point being that the map will show the "official" route with no tinkering at all. If I do this I can control how it is displayed and Scotroutes will tell you that I've done it in a way that the map still shows through.
Indeed!
FWIW, the track marker shows up as a nice clear red in Basecamp, but a rather faint yellow on my Oregon.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:48 pm
by Dave Barter
I am still labouring away on these.
Got a bit carried away and decided to add the national cycle network to the maps as well. Oh lordy what a world of pain sorting that data out.
I may have a demo to show at the FF.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:56 pm
by Taylor
A full power point presentation?
Well done Dave.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:02 pm
by Dave Barter
I'm on after your skills session
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:46 pm
by Zippy
Taylor wrote:A full power point presentation?
Well done Dave.
Dave Barter wrote:I'm on after your skills session
Ha ha ha

touché
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:04 pm
by Taylor
I was just trying a front flip, it seems to be all the rage nowadays.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:29 pm
by ScotRoutes
Dave - you after any more feedback on the HTR "sample" you sent me? I've been over it a couple of times and can't really find anything else to add to what I previously wrote. As above, the only issue I've experienced is that the route itself seems to show as a rather insipid yellow on my Garmin Oregon.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:47 pm
by Chew
ScotRoutes wrote:Dave - you after any more feedback on the HTR "sample" you sent me? I've been over it a couple of times and can't really find anything else to add to what I previously wrote. As above, the only issue I've experienced is that the route itself seems to show as a rather insipid yellow on my Garmin Oregon.
Is the yellow a setting in the garmin, or is it something hard coded into the file?
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:08 pm
by ScotRoutes
Chew wrote:ScotRoutes wrote:Dave - you after any more feedback on the HTR "sample" you sent me? I've been over it a couple of times and can't really find anything else to add to what I previously wrote. As above, the only issue I've experienced is that the route itself seems to show as a rather insipid yellow on my Garmin Oregon.
Is the yellow a setting in the garmin, or is it something hard coded into the file?
As far as I can tell, it's not something I can change with the Garmin as it's "on the map".
ScreenDump by
ScotRoutes, on Flickr
It's an easy-to-read red colour on Basecamp
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:47 pm
by Dave Barter
I am sorting that thanks scotroutes, trying a few different ways of rendering it. The problem you are seeing is that the garmin has it stuck in "night mode".
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:05 pm
by ScotRoutes
Dave Barter wrote:I am sorting that thanks scotroutes, trying a few different ways of rendering it. The problem you are seeing is that the garmin has it stuck in "night mode".
Cool. Let me know if you need any "re-testing". Also, I still have your MicroSD card here. I assume you'd like it back

Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:15 pm
by Dave Barter
You can hang onto it as a special gift. Or post it back to me and I'll send you the beta-full UK render.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:39 pm
by wfbroddy
this is an interesting project, I'm in the central belt of Scotland if that helps at all, with checking things out.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:47 pm
by Mr Chubby
Oooh I am interested in this too - I have 2 gb available in a drop box i can make a shared folder so that everyone can copy it off if that is any use?
Rich
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:01 pm
by Zippy
Mr Chubby wrote:Oooh I am interested in this too - I have 2 gb available in a drop box i can make a shared folder so that everyone can copy it off if that is any use?
Rich
Aaaaaghhh, What's a "gram-bit"
b = bit (basic unit of information in computing, only commonly used by internet service providers - and computing nerds.)
B=byte (8 bits, see above, but the more common unit of computing storage used with prefix kilo, mega, giga etc. as appropriate)
G=Giga (i.e. x 10^9)
g = gram (unit of mass)
Sorry this gets on my tits as an engineer (misuse of units that is)
/Endeth Pedantry
(not having a go at anyone, just being a keyboard warrior about units, and we all know what you mean

)
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:23 pm
by Ben98
Zippy wrote:Mr Chubby wrote:Oooh I am interested in this too - I have 2 gb available in a drop box i can make a shared folder so that everyone can copy it off if that is any use?
Rich
Aaaaaghhh, What's a "gram-bit"
b = bit (basic unit of information in computing, only commonly used by internet service providers - and computing nerds.)
B=byte (8 bits, see above, but the more common unit of computing storage used with prefix kilo, mega, giga etc. as appropriate)
G=Giga (i.e. x 10^9)
g = gram (unit of mass)
Sorry this gets on my tits as an engineer (misuse of units that is)
/Endeth Pedantry
(not having a go at anyone, just being a keyboard warrior about units, and we all know what you mean

)
Nerd

Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:50 pm
by Ian
Zippy wrote:
/Endeth Pedantry
...and breathe...

Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:14 am
by Matt
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Would have been better really.
Re: Garmin UK ITT Maps - Any interest?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:19 am
by Zippy
Fantasticmrmatt wrote:</pedantry>
Would have been better really.
Only if accompanied by <pedentry> to begin with...
