Ahhh only just noticed this one and it will be a more sensible place for me to get to than going up North.

Count me in. :)

Stu. Is this defo 14-15 as im on nights but am trying to arrange cover so I can get it done this time as I keep miss them due to work so if its setbin stone I will try n make it

Okay, noon, Dec 14th, at Pennal (west of Machynlleth) SH 004700.

I've a nice loop in mind which will hopefully involve some breakfast somewhere on Sun morning

Everyone* welcome as normal.

*there might be one exception to this.

s8tannorm wrote:breakfast somewhere on Sun morning

Matts house?

After last year's snore-fest, no way!!!

After last year's snore-fest, no way!!!

Sorted

I'm a fan of laser lite's myself.

Standard foam ones hurt my ears by the morning.

Breakfast will be a cafe or something yeah? So only dinner required as a "wild" meal?

Breakfast will be a cafe or something yeah?

Fingers crossed but I promise nothing, so don't bank on it.

So only dinner required a "wild" meal?

The Winter bivvy tends to be a chance for people to show off their 'cooking skills'

Well up for this if I'm recovered ( should be )

I can cycle to the start :D

I'm planning on doing my last bike video of the year on this trip.
If any one who is coming has a bike camera wouldn't mind bringing it, we could get loads of footage and I'll cut it together. :)

I'd be up for that.

Will my Veho Muvi be of any use or is it Gopro or nowt?

I'm sure it will be fine. I was banking on people having different cameras so knew I would probably have to do some colour matching and stuff to get it to all work together. I might even have 2 myself if I decide to bring the Canon as well.

composite wrote: if I decide to bring the Canon as well.

Kaboom

It will be one way to deal with loud snorers.

Do you mind complete noobs coming? I'm signed up for There n Back so was planning a few overnighters to test kit out ... would appreciate a trip with seasoned pro's so you can tut and tell me what kit i should and shouldn't be using

What sort of distance were you planning on doing and at what sort of pace? i'm a plodder but happy to plod for 40-45 miles a day .... its when the racing snakes zoom off and i try to keep up i'm screwed!

I can also get access to 2 GoPro's if that helps seal the deal

Dates are fine with me and i should have all my bits by then, and it would be great to meet up with you all.

Zippy wrote:

composite wrote: if I decide to bring the Canon as well.

Kaboom

No, no, no. That's a cannon.

You mean Canon, as in vicar.

Do you mind complete noobs coming?

Not at all, everyone very welcome.

would appreciate a trip with seasoned pro's

Don't expect too much

you can tut and tell me what kit i should and shouldn't be using

Advice given freely but I shouldn't imagine there'll be any tutting ... unless you've got a hammock.

What sort of distance were you planning on doing and at what sort of pace?

Certainly no race. Expect 20 - 25 miles both days at whatever pace gets set by the steadiest rider. The only exception might be Matt who tends to try and 'beast' everyone else.

Dates are fine with me and i should have all my bits by then, and it would be great to meet up with you all

If you need / want to borrow anything just shout up, someone will have a spare (no matter what it is) ... even large caliber artillery or a member of the clergy

I'm pretty good kit wise i do a lot of hill walking and climbing so have some decent warm light weight kit i can use

Waiting into today have a few bits coming from Wildcat, the only thing i'm really missing is a frame bag, going to make a template today

What do most of you use overnight? Bivi or tent? I have a few dif types of Bivi bags and single skin 1 man tent, plus loads of diff bivi tarp's mostly ex forces stuff so pretty heavy.

I take it like all outdoor adventures the key is keeping it light weight? And packing like everything becomes a art?

Also my real concern for me is that i drink a lot of fluid, so will be trying out my Water To Go system if i run out

What do most of you use overnight? Bivi or tent?

Whatever works for you ... although I can't recall anyone ever taking a 'proper tent'. Last year actually turned into an unexpected bothy (well for everyone else it did) but everyone was still carrying enough had the 'bothy' not been available.

I take it like all outdoor adventures the key is keeping it light weight? And packing like everything becomes a art?

Yep, lightweight will make life much easier but obviously conditions will effect just how light you go. IanB's yer man for 'packing as an art form'

Also my real concern for me is that i drink a lot of fluid, so will be trying out my Water To Go system if i run out

There'll be no shortage of water.

Whatever works for you ... although I can't recall anyone ever taking a 'proper tent'.

LMAO no pressure then i best get some practice packs in and see how light i can get stuff

When you say plenty of water... domestic bliss ... or rank river?

And will there be anywhere i can leave car overnight?

When you say plenty of water... domestic bliss ... or rank river?

Lets just say you'll get chance to use your filter

And will there be anywhere i can leave car overnight?

Pennal's nice and quiet, you'll find somewhere to leave your car okay.

Hi Stu,

I might be travelling down from the Wirral for this, I know it's difficult to guess but do you have an approx. time you might be setting off and returning please?

cheers

Noon for meeting up, then add half an hour or so for faffing, so 1ish for getting underway. Reckon we should be back at the start by 2.00pm Sunday at the very, very latest but more likely midday.