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Re: "human litter" on Snowdon

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:19 pm
by tobasco
It’s the age old dilemma of draconian vs libertarian solutions. The former is immediate/quick to implement but prone to unforeseen consequences. The latter involves education, which can be a slow burn. I do like the idea of litterers/LNT infringers having to get involved in some form of community litter picking*, a bit like speed awareness courses.

If someone had to pick up someone else’s poo I reckon they’d be ‘educated’ swiftly.

Re: "human litter" on Snowdon

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:30 pm
by ootini
It almost feels like snowdon is the sacrificial lamb that we need to leave the masses to destroy in order to prevent them spotting the other mountains around the area. While they're eroding, trampling, pooing on, and generally destroying snowdon, the rest of us can enjoy the rest of the GOD.
It's a shame...

Re: "human litter" on Snowdon

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:59 pm
by belugabob
As an aside, you can do a tour of the Paris sewers and, at the end, there are visitors toilets. (Proper flushing ones)

I couldn't help but think they should have just installed "long drops" and saved a fortune on plumbing 😉💩

Re: "human litter" on Snowdon

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:31 pm
by Linkpin
Was chatting to my wife about this article and she is of the opinion that if you put toilets somewhere but don't open them you're far more likely to have problems than if you advertise that there are no toilets.

Whether or not you think it's right that there are toilets or other facilities on a mountain, it's perhaps not unreasonable that people might assume they can use them if they know they exist.

On the other hand all my mates laugh at the little plastic poo trowel I always carry until they need to use it, in the same way that they laugh at me constantly carrying a first aid kit until they go over the bars on a rocky descent...

Re: "human litter" on Snowdon

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:29 am
by slarge
It's unacceptable behaviour, but Snowdon (is it now Yr Wyddfa?) is sacrificed to the masses. This leaves the rest of the region to be enjoyed......

Re: "human litter" on Snowdon

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:22 am
by voodoo_simon
She claimed toilets at the summit were closed along with the café and "there were no toilets open at the bottom when we got to the bottom after a seven hour hike".
This is the part I can’t understand (well, I can’t understand someone pooing along a path either) but why hasn’t Llanberis got a toilet block that is open 24 hours? Let’s face it, Snowdon is a 24 hour mountain with all the charity walks going up