how do you pronounce Llanbrymair

Llan - double L is as CL but it's muted slightly so a little softer. Hard to describe without hearing it. Almost 'thlan'.

Bryn - BRIN

Myre - MIRE

Anyway, 'Saint Mary's church on the hill' if you're bothered I'm sure Dee will be available on Sunday to give lessons, she usually does.

Most Welsh are used to the first bit being butchered, so wont be massively offended by Lan.

Boab wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:15 pm Anyone got a cheat sheet on how to pronounce various placenames...? I fear I'm going to make a complete tit of myself when asking for directions etc...
As a starter, how do you pronounce Llanbrymair...?

I'm sure we had a thread about Welsh place name pro nun see ehshun

All vowels are short, so 'a' as in cat not as in gate. Y & W are also vowels, 'y' is something like a long 'i' as in bin. 'w' is like 'ew' in news.
Vowel pairs are a bit weird: 'oe' is something like 'oye' - croesor (welcome) sounds like 'croyesor', the 'e' being quite subtle. 'au' (as in Blaenau) sounds like the English word 'eye'; 'ae' sounds like the 'y' in 'fly'.

Consonants are as for English with the following differences.

'C' is always hard as in 'cat'
'G' is always hard as in 'get'
Single 'F' is English 'v' as in 'of'
Double 'FF' is English 'f' as in 'off'
'DD' is somewhere between English 'v' and 'th'
'LL' is a bit like 'fl' but almost without the 'f' part - put your tongue in the front top part of your mouth then try saying it, so for 'llan' try saying 'flan' and it will sound near enough.

That's a simple starter.

Looks totally simples... I see I will be apologising profusely at times, with a suitably puzzled look on my face.

Here we go, I've found the post that Dee wrote awhile a go.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15814&p=200800&hili ... ge#p200800

I'm still worrying about the whole thing.

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:50 pm I'm still worrying about the whole thing.

Hold on... thought you weren't coming... do I need to grab some ginger beer then

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:50 pm I'm still worrying about the whole thing.

Dinnae
Its only a bike ride, whats the worst that can happen

I'm on the November one. What's the worst that can happen? Not sure. Hope I don't find out.

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:25 pm Here we go, I've found the post that Dee wrote awhile a go.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15814&p=200800&hili ... ge#p200800

Thanks! As someone who struggles with English, and after six months living in Italy only had enough grasp to tell bar tenders there was too much foam on a beer, I fear Welsh is going to be just too impenetrable. At least those YouTube links will give me something to listen to in the office tomorrow.

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:50 pm I'm still worrying about the whole thing.

I'm near enough in full on fight or flight mode, so feel your pain. The anxiety the last couple of days has been so bad I've barely managed to do any work. The bastard is, I know that after an hour of riding on Saturday, I'll be wondering what all the fuss was about, as I'm outside riding my bike, and thus having a great time... I hate my brain at times.

Two years ago I was stronger than I am now and was looking forward to it. This year, well, I'm about 50 % or 40% as ready

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:42 am Two years ago I was stronger than I am now and was looking forward to it. This year, well, I'm about 50 % or 40% as ready

You seem to have been doing a fair amount of riding though, at least based on your Facebook / Strava activity.

Boab wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:41 am

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:50 pm I'm still worrying about the whole thing.

I'm near enough in full on fight or flight mode, so feel your pain. The anxiety the last couple of days has been so bad I've barely managed to do any work. The bastard is, I know that after an hour of riding on Saturday, I'll be wondering what all the fuss was about, as I'm outside riding my bike, and thus having a great time... I hate my brain at times.

What's all the fuss about Bob... Might be one of the easiest rides you/we ever do... Just breathe...

Wax on... wax off... wax on... wax off....

It's such an easy ride that Shaf's bike will be showroom condition at the end.

redefined_cycles wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:36 am

Boab wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:41 am

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:50 pm I'm still worrying about the whole thing.

I'm near enough in full on fight or flight mode, so feel your pain. The anxiety the last couple of days has been so bad I've barely managed to do any work. The bastard is, I know that after an hour of riding on Saturday, I'll be wondering what all the fuss was about, as I'm outside riding my bike, and thus having a great time... I hate my brain at times.

What's all the fuss about Bob... Might be one of the easiest rides you/we ever do... Just breathe...

Wax on... wax off... wax on... wax off....

It's a general fear of the unknown, and is generally only a problem the first time I do something, and then only when it involves other people.
I've had it since I was a child, and it can be quite annoying at times, especially as there's generally never an issue.

Dyffers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:47 am It's such an easy ride that Shaf's bike will be showroom condition at the end.

Dyffers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:47 am It's such an easy ride that Shaf's bike will be showroom condition at the end.

Richard G wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:35 am

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:42 am Two years ago I was stronger than I am now and was looking forward to it. This year, well, I'm about 50 % or 40% as ready

You seem to have been doing a fair amount of riding though, at least based on your Facebook / Strava activity.

Facebook looks like I'm never home. Strava , no lieing there eh. Least that is a vote of confidence. Thanks :)

My "plan" is 8am depart, cafe stop at 60km, ride to finish at round 10pm to 1am - Beer to finish!

It looks like quote a fast route, possibly best on a gravel? But im going to make life hard for myself and use my 160mm travel hardtail and 2.8 tyres to really feel the burn.

Will be at the pub in the village on Friday from 7pm ish.

Oof speedy!
Speaking of which are messrs Glen and Page in for this?
Not that I'm trying to keep up just always nice to know how far off the pace you are.

Alexinthepeaks wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:18 pm My "plan" is 8am depart, cafe stop at 60km, ride to finish at round 10pm to 1am - Beer to finish!

It looks like quote a fast route, possibly best on a gravel? But im going to make life hard for myself and use my 160mm travel hardtail and 2.8 tyres to really feel the burn.

Will be at the pub in the village on Friday from 7pm ish.

Speedy for a bb200?! Gravel?!

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:14 pm

Alexinthepeaks wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:18 pm My "plan" is 8am depart, cafe stop at 60km, ride to finish at round 10pm to 1am - Beer to finish!

It looks like quote a fast route, possibly best on a gravel? But im going to make life hard for myself and use my 160mm travel hardtail and 2.8 tyres to really feel the burn.

Will be at the pub in the village on Friday from 7pm ish.

Speedy for a bb200?! Gravel?!

Allen.. he's insane-fast is Alex... Suprisingly humble aswell

Speaking of which are messrs Glen and Page in for this?

Matt's on the 300.

redefined_cycles wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:29 pm

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:14 pm

Alexinthepeaks wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:18 pm My "plan" is 8am depart, cafe stop at 60km, ride to finish at round 10pm to 1am - Beer to finish!

It looks like quote a fast route, possibly best on a gravel? But im going to make life hard for myself and use my 160mm travel hardtail and 2.8 tyres to really feel the burn.

Will be at the pub in the village on Friday from 7pm ish.

Speedy for a bb200?! Gravel?!

Allen.. he's insane-fast is Alex... Suprisingly humble aswell

Ah brilliant. So double or triple my effort then hehe.

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:10 pm

redefined_cycles wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:29 pm

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:14 pm

Alexinthepeaks wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:18 pm My "plan" is 8am depart, cafe stop at 60km, ride to finish at round 10pm to 1am - Beer to finish!

It looks like quote a fast route, possibly best on a gravel? But im going to make life hard for myself and use my 160mm travel hardtail and 2.8 tyres to really feel the burn.

Will be at the pub in the village on Friday from 7pm ish.

Speedy for a bb200?! Gravel?!

Allen.. he's insane-fast is Alex... Suprisingly humble aswell

Ah brilliant. So double or triple my effort then hehe.

Mine too... they make me sick