Dartmoor national park seem to be advising that wild camping will be ok from weds.

Hmm. About to be in T2 despite being in an area with one of lowest infection/population ratios. No overnight stays 'unless for work'? Whatever. For December BaM - and my Peaks plan is out the window now really as they're now T3 (from T1!)- does one do it now under 'lockdown'; mid-Dec in T2,; wait and see if our (or even the Peaks) tier changes for the better (hahaha!) on 16th Dec; or even wait for the 5-day ridiculousness. Quandary. Yawn.

RIP wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:04 pm Hmm. About to be in T2 despite being in an area with one of lowest infection/population ratios. No overnight stays 'unless for work'? Whatever. For December BaM - and my Peaks plan is out the window now really as they're now T3 (from T1!)- does one do it now under 'lockdown'; mid-Dec in T2,; wait and see if our (or even the Peaks) tier changes for the better (hahaha!) on 16th Dec; or even wait for the 5-day ridiculousness. Quandary. Yawn.

So... if I'm in tier 2 Reg (I don't know... whats Kirklees anyone!) and thus unable to complete my BAM officially and properly. Does that mean - to save my Nov BAM2020 - I could come home from work tomorrow, set up camp in garden with bike closeby and then in the morning sort myself out and go for a ride...

Would Stu still accept that as my Nov BAM done

West Yorkshire is tier 3 Shaf

Shewie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:29 pm West Yorkshire is tier 3 Shaf

Thanks Rich. So if I do a back yard bivy tomorrow after work and then head out to Wessy .. then submit to the BAM2020 page. I reckon I'll have saved my November BAM...

Yes back gardens are within the guidelines at present Shaf'.

RIP wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:04 pm Hmm. About to be in T2 despite being in an area with one of lowest infection/population ratios. No overnight stays 'unless for work'?

Work you say? I’ve been thinking of employing a freelance tarp tester, the pay is not great....1/2 of best.

I received the keys to a private *bothy for next weekends Global Fat Bike Day. Its usually a group get together but this year will be a solo effort. Should be fun as the same

*nicely located in Snowdonia not far from me

BigdummySteve wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:02 pm

RIP wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:04 pm Hmm. About to be in T2 despite being in an area with one of lowest infection/population ratios. No overnight stays 'unless for work'?

Work you say? I’ve been thinking of employing a freelance tarp tester, the pay is not great....1/2 of best.

Accepted! 'Work' does sound rather open-ended. I guess we're back to our old discussions about shouldn't really but try and minimise if we do.

redefined_cycles wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:17 pm

RIP wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:04 pm Hmm. About to be in T2 despite being in an area with one of lowest infection/population ratios. No overnight stays 'unless for work'? Whatever. For December BaM - and my Peaks plan is out the window now really as they're now T3 (from T1!)- does one do it now under 'lockdown'; mid-Dec in T2,; wait and see if our (or even the Peaks) tier changes for the better (hahaha!) on 16th Dec; or even wait for the 5-day ridiculousness. Quandary. Yawn.

So... if I'm in tier 2 Reg (I don't know... whats Kirklees anyone!) and thus unable to complete my BAM officially and properly. Does that mean - to save my Nov BAM2020 - I could come home from work tomorrow, set up camp in garden with bike closeby and then in the morning sort myself out and go for a ride...

Would Stu still accept that as my Nov BAM done

If it is the November one then crack on as you can currently, the tier structure doesn't start until December.

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:00 pm Yes back gardens are within the guidelines at present Shaf'.

Ace... thats my BAM2020 saved then. Must get on it, so little time (i know!).

thats my BAM2020 saved then

Still plenty of time for December to go pear-shaped though .

RIP wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:42 pm

thats my BAM2020 saved then

Still plenty of time for December to go pear-shaped though .

Come on Reg... thats a full month. Who could miss their BAM over a full month timescale

Who indeed? Well Reg for a start. One February I very nearly missed it. Forgot only 28 days. On last morning suddenly realised, slapped all the gear on the bike, and screamed round to the station. Consulted my ladyfriend Eileen in the office - suggest somewhere I can get to fast please. She chose Macclesfield.

Was there 2 hours later, stood on the platform and asked this lot, live on Here, where I should go next. Stu suggested I popped in on his mum but I really didn't want to risk giving the poor lady the shock of her life. Spotted some snow on the hills so headed that way with no plan.

After some fairly atrocious conditions, snow/ice/fog etc, I fetched up in a pub in the High Peak. Several beers later the landlady suggested I kipped in the village graveyard which I duly did (bivvied there twice since). Rode back to Macc next day through the blizzards and was home by the evening.

One of my favourite BaMs ever (*)

So, yes, it is possible to (almost) miss a month by mistake.

(*) All 58 BaMs have been my 'favourite BaM ever' of course....

Reg... You should really learn to plan ahead more effectively

I did! I knew exactly what I was doing for every second of every 5 minutes ahead.

Just climbing out of my sleeping bag in the high moors of the Yorkshire Dales. That's my answer to the subject. 2 days out alone. I just fell asleep ....officer...

What am I missing here?
Outside of tier 3 you can travel for leisure and stay overnight with your household or alone.
Just not in other people’s houses or hotels.
You can social with up to 6 people outside.
Nothing wrong with a bivi.

I spoke with a chap today who was on his way to a bothy who was from Englandshire and with a strong accent of the 'Calm down calm down' type He did confirm this.
I asked him "where you of to mate (as it was getting on a bit)", and his reply was"I'm off to the bothy as it'll be quiet".
"Yeah, that's because all MBA bothies are closed and not to be used" I said.
"That's why it'll be quiet" was the reply.
...and then he went on to say how he was moved on (in his campervan) on Friday night in the Lakes by the feds.

How long were you going for Chris?

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:09 pm How long were you going for Chris?

I usually carry the full setup, part of the training!

besides that it pi$$ed it down so good to have a full change of clothes....mmmmmmmmmmm

I usually carry the full setup, part of the training!

You know there's no prizes for the rider with the greatest number of bags?

lune ranger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:21 pm What am I missing here?
Outside of tier 3 you can travel for leisure and stay overnight with your household or alone.
Just not in other people’s houses or hotels.
You can social with up to 6 people outside.
Nothing wrong with a bivi.

As far as I am aware we are not in any of the tiers in England at the moment we are in Lockdown until Wednesday

Raggedstone wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:43 pm

lune ranger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:21 pm What am I missing here?
Outside of tier 3 you can travel for leisure and stay overnight with your household or alone.
Just not in other people’s houses or hotels.
You can social with up to 6 people outside.
Nothing wrong with a bivi.

As far as I am aware we are not in any of the tiers in England at the moment we are in Lockdown until Wednesday

Yes you’re correct.
I thought that the conversation was leaning towards the post Wednesday situation. Lots of people talking about December etc.
At present you can’t stay away overnight without proper reason eg. work. That’s pretty clear.