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Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:39 pm
by voodoo_simon
Yes! I've pushed with panniers before
Method to my madness,
-15inch frame makes a frame bag pointless!
-Not using a bag on my back for maximum breathability (if such word exists).
Going to finalise my kit over the weekend, so may go with the bag option...
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:46 pm
by Chew
Hopefully no pushing will be involved, but do you need both panniers?
Just on one the non push side?
Stuff strapped to the top?
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:05 pm
by voodoo_simon
Hopefully just one, it's a front pannier but in the rear, so only 20l. Rough plan at the moment is
-sleeping bag on handlebar
-two flasks on the forks
-fuel on the bottle mount
-pump mounted under the BB
-foam matt (has to be foam) on top of the rack
-pannier with stove, spare gloves+ hat, food and down jacket, spare tubes and multi tool
-stem cell with GPS and head torch
-two feed bags with snacks (jelly babies in one, nuts n raisins in t'other)
Just need somewhere for my mini SLR camera (if it comes with me), or my phone for pictures
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:10 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
You chaps heading for Finland 'need' some of this clobber.
http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-ge ... ike-shell/
Please, please ignore the bloke in the first picture demonstrating how NOT to ride a mountain bike ... sorry, pictures like that wind me up and make my job much harder.
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:10 pm
by Ian
foam matt (has to be foam)
It does?
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:18 pm
by voodoo_simon
Ian wrote:foam matt (has to be foam)
It does?
It cant be a blow up one, guess they want reliability over warmth
Mandaory kit: (
http://www.rovaniemi150.com/information/gear/)
-sleeping bag
-sleeping pad
-headtorch
-rear lamp (with enough batteries)
-2xreflective patches given by R150 organisors
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:28 pm
by Ian
Oh, right. Managed to miss that then. Might just drop them a line to double check...
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:50 pm
by johnnystorm
Not much mandatory kit for me, doesn't say I'll get given the reflective strips though?:
MANDATORY GEAR
- Headlamp with enough batteries (we recommend: Energizer Ultimate Lithium).
- Rear red flashing lamp with enough batteries.
Racers must carry all the mandatory gear throughout the entire race from beginning to end and finish it with it.
Participants must bring all mandatory gear for check-in to the pre-race meeting.
Any racer who does not have the appropiate mandatory gear will not be allowed to participate.
Any racer who does not finish with the mandatory gear will be disqualified.
REFLECTIVE GEAR
Reflective gear is mandatory for all racers.
The rear red flashing light must be on during dark periods.
Any racer who doesn't have the red flashing light on during dark periods will result in immediate disqualification.
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:52 pm
by FLV
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:45 am
by Justchris
Very surprised they are matching a foam mat with a down bag at artic conditions. I wonder if its lost in translation. I would go with an air gap mat and solid foam together. potential air temperatures of minus thirty could mean ground temps of Minus Thirty fiveish.
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:37 am
by voodoo_simon
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:21 pm
by johnnystorm
I thought I ought to break my boots in if it becomes a Death-Slush-March. Shirt, tie, trousers and -30 boots at work....
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:59 pm
by voodoo_simon
I walked my dog the other day in my boots, was -1c and my feet were red hot!
Rarely use youtube but did come across this video about the race. Might want to turn the sound off though and skip to the mid-section when he starts to ride, but it gives a good idea of what to expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgzRNKNiZx0
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:06 pm
by johnnystorm
voodoo_simon wrote:I walked my dog the other day in my boots, was -1c and my feet were red hot!
Rarely use youtube but did come across this video about the race. Might want to turn the sound off though and skip to the mid-section when he starts to ride, but it gives a good idea of what to expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgzRNKNiZx0
Off with the winter boots to drive home in normal merrells.....felt like I'd got chilled slippers on!
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:04 pm
by slarge
Years ago I used to do cold environment testing for Jaguar. We would go to North Ontario where average temperatures were -20 deg C and sometimes it got down to -40.
All I can say is don't get cold. You will not get warm once you've got properly cold. And as there is no escape from the cold, don't try to travel too light. And proper footwear, gloves and headgear is crucial - not sure what gear is available in Finland but I imagine they have better and cheaper cold weather gear than uk shops (that was always the way in Canada).
Good luck!
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:35 pm
by FLV
slarge wrote:Years ago I used to do cold environment testing for Jaguar. We would go to North Ontario where average temperatures were -20 deg C and sometimes it got down to -40.
All I can say is don't get cold. You will not get warm once you've got properly cold. And as there is no escape from the cold, don't try to travel too light. And proper footwear, gloves and headgear is crucial - not sure what gear is available in Finland but I imagine they have better and cheaper cold weather gear than uk shops (that was always the way in Canada).
Good luck!
From my winter mountaineering days. This is very intelligent advice.
.although I'm sure you've all thought of this
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:46 pm
by ianfitz
I know some one who did this as a runner maybe last year. He said as it was a warm year he just ran in neoprene socks and normal fell shoes.
I reckon he's lucky to still have his toes! Probably got away with it as it was only -5...
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:04 pm
by slarge
Running keeps the feet moving and the blood flowing. Cycling doesn't, so feet are hard to keep warm.
The other thing was the dry air makes bogies like shards of glass. Sounds amusing till you get one - try to keep you nose warm and moist (but not wet), not cold and dry! And no picking!
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:06 am
by Ian
Mandatory kit update: I can take my down mat, so that's one less thing to buy

Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:30 pm
by voodoo_simon
Top advice slarge, the difficulty is to keep sweating to a minimal to prevent the moisture from freezing later on.
I've managed to get my sleeping bag into the 20l dry bag

It goes in with easier now that I put in a silicon dry bag inside the main dry bag, so the sleeping bag now slides in and out instead of sticking
That's good news Ian, wished I asked that earlier in the year instead of buying my foam one (my air one won't be warm enough for the race, so I'll stick with the foam)
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:41 am
by Chew
voodoo_simon wrote:That's good news Ian, wished I asked that earlier in the year instead of buying my foam one (my air one won't be warm enough for the race, so I'll stick with the foam)
You can always borrow my down mat if you wanted?
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:12 am
by voodoo_simon
Chew wrote:voodoo_simon wrote:That's good news Ian, wished I asked that earlier in the year instead of buying my foam one (my air one won't be warm enough for the race, so I'll stick with the foam)
You can always borrow my down mat if you wanted?
Cheers Chew, that's very kind. I'll keep with my foam matt at the moment, may even help to pad my bike for the flight

Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:29 am
by paul78
If it makes you feel any better I am opting for a foam mat over my exped down mat
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:37 pm
by Ian
While a foam mat is quicker to deploy, my down mat is easy to pack as it goes in with my sleeping bag.
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:47 pm
by paul78
I guess the issue is if the sleeping bag comes out then its more than likely something has gone wrong and your event is over so I don't plan on using whatever I am carrying :)