• BB200 route.

Posted: **Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:38 pm**

The chat's been spread over some odd threads

I suppose it depends on which side of the ridgeway track you ride

There's a 24hr garage at Welshpool, it's a couple of km off-route but it's a flat off-route. I think the café at ByS will be open, something like £13 for unlimited tea and a packed supper(?).

Posted: **Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:41 pm**

does £5 still get me some grub at Bwlch-y-sarnau?

Cafe will be open on Sat but it may only be brews and cake. Just take some cash.

Posted: **Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:58 pm**

whitestone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:38 pm I suppose it depends on which side of the ridgeway track you ride

There's a 24hr garage at Welshpool, it's a couple of km off-route but it's a flat off-route.

As in Kerry Ridgeway? That section is pretty straight forward, is it not? (have ridden it before several times and nothing stands out in my mind)

Tuffins - good shout. Might be useful. Any port in a storm, and there's moisture forecast Saturday night. Looks like you can get to it via the canal, too, save riding the drag racing strip of the A483.

Stu - cheers for that.

Edit - blimey, there's even a 24hr MacDonalds. In Welshpool. Chuff me. Wales has caught up

Bet they've never seen a muddy bikepacker at 2am, mind you...

Posted: **Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:59 pm**

are we now allowed to talk about BB200 part one?

Posted: **Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:08 pm**

Asposium wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:59 pm are we now allowed to talk about BB200 part one?

I doubt there's much info that you can impart that would be of any advantage at this late stage.

Ian - the border runs along part of the KR, hence English one side, etc.

I've done most of the Welsh side of things but a lot of it in the opposite direction. Percentage wise the English side is probably the reverse, just done bits around the Long Mynd and Stiperstones.

I'm thinking that with the recent rains things might be "interesting" off-road. Just thankful we aren't doing cowshit track into Bwlch y Sarnau.

Posted: **Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:13 pm**

Ian wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:58 pm
whitestone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:38 pm I suppose it depends on which side of the ridgeway track you ride

There's a 24hr garage at Welshpool, it's a couple of km off-route but it's a flat off-route.
As in Kerry Ridgeway? That section is pretty straight forward, is it not? (have ridden it before several times and nothing stands out in my mind)

Tuffins - good shout. Might be useful. Any port in a storm, and there's moisture forecast Saturday night. Looks like you can get to it via the canal, too, save riding the drag racing strip of the A483.

Stu - cheers for that.

Edit - blimey, there's even a 24hr MacDonalds. In Welshpool. Chuff me. Wales has caught up
Bet they've never seen a muddy bikepacker at 2am, mind you...

They have Ian, but it was 12am not 2am

Posted: **Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:15 pm**

Right, got you Bob. Went over my head that one (out of practice).

There's bits of the route reminiscent of 2018 (I think), though the other way around. That was a great route, and the off road bits look sufficiently punctuated with tarmac that there's opportunity to gather wits periodically. Looking forward to a trip over Pole Bank actually and down Portway. Haven't done that in years and years. Pity it'll be dark by then, though.

Posted: **Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:17 pm**

slarge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:13 pm
Ian wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:58 pm Edit - blimey, there's even a 24hr MacDonalds. In Welshpool. Chuff me. Wales has caught up
Bet they've never seen a muddy bikepacker at 2am, mind you...
They have Ian, but it was 12am not 2am

Ha! I'm not as quick as you though

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:50 am**

The www says the Welshpool tesco is open til midnight on Saturday (reopens 10am sunday)

Have no idea how realistic getting there for sat night is?

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:32 am**

Pretty sure I won’t make Welshpool for midnight. A 2am MacDonalds is a questionable strategy for me, as I’m sure that all I’ll want to do after eating it is fall asleep (even if I chase it down with two coffees).

That said, it’s doubtful I’ll be able to ride right through the night, so perhaps aiming for Welshpool and sleeping for a few hours somewhere around there isn’t a bad strategy.

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:41 am**

are we now allowed to talk about BB200 part one?

Rather not. Ian and Bob are both on the 300 this weekend so are purely speculating.

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:01 am**

I’m sure Newtown Maccy’s is 24hrs at the weekends.

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:41 am**

sillybigfella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:01 am I’m sure Newtown Maccy’s is 24hrs at the weekends.

Takes a surprising amount of time to get there / back off the route. I did it on this year's WRT from exactly the same place.

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:11 pm**

I was getting somewhat confused (easily done) about McDonalds in Welshpool until I twigged you were on the 300 - Hell of a detour for a Big Mac otherwise.

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:23 pm**

If it was burger king.....

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:12 pm**

macinblack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:11 pm I was getting somewhat confused (easily done) about McDonalds in Welshpool until I twigged you were on the 300 - Hell of a detour for a Big Mac otherwise.

not just me then

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:38 pm**

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:23 pm If it was burger king.....

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:17 pm**

Since I don't eat meat, the location of said fast food joints is neither here nor there. I'd probably detour off-route to avoid them

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:57 pm**

For me it’d be…

Since I do eat meat, the location of said fast food joints is neither here nor there. I'd probably detour off-route to avoid them

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:09 pm**

whitestone wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:17 pm Since I don't eat meat, the location of said fast food joints is neither here nor there. I'd probably detour off-route to avoid them

Was going to say that too but didn't want cause an upset - although quite why some people find it "threatening" I've no idea

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Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:46 pm**

There is a good food source at K132 on the 200, right on the trail

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:01 pm**

fatbikephil wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:46 pm There is a good food source at K132 on the 200, right on the trail

Veg based I hope

Actually the 300 doesn't go that way.

Posted: **Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:49 am**

I don't remember seeing anything there.

Was dark when I got there though, so I could have missed it I guess?

Posted: **Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:49 pm**

fatbikephil wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:46 pm There is a good food source at K132 on the 200, right on the trail

Vegetarian friendly too!

Posted: **Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:57 pm**

Ohh... I get it.

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