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Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 10:22 am
by fatbikephil
The odd occasion I've left the ground on the Straggler I definitely did get the feeling of unstoppability, i.e. it felt like there was no way I could stop myself going face first into the ground....

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:55 am
by Boab
More than just a gravel bike, evidently. Met the new Rondo MYLC.
The MYLC range redefines what’s rideable with a gravel bike. The new additions to the RONDO family perform exponentially better on gnarly terrain and rugged descents as they take their mojo from mountain bikes – instead of from their road counterparts. The result of this complete re-imagining of the frame geometry is the unrestricted ability to explore combined with maximum stability, comfort and confidence.
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Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:06 am
by Bearbonesnorm
Sorry to be my usual self but that doesn't look like a riding position to inspire confidence on technical terrain. Granted, the image does indicate a slack(ish) head angle but 'head down, arse up' and what looks like minimal stand-over seems at odds.

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:47 am
by faustus
The AL version looks a fair bit better, but with MTB inspired geometry doesn't necessarily mean extra tyre clearance (not surprising with 425mm chainstays):
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Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:08 am
by Boab
They're really going for it with this newer angular aesthetic...

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:20 am
by faustus
Their product images are definitely messed with a lot. That AL frame has a more pronounced scoop out of the seat tube, and they also left in a cable rear disc brake (presumably form another build) in the photo, and they've chopped off most of the bottle cage bosses...

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:30 am
by Bearlegged
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:06 am Sorry to be my usual self but that doesn't look like a riding position to inspire confidence on technical terrain. Granted, the image does indicate a slack(ish) head angle but 'head down, arse up' and what looks like minimal stand-over seems at odds.
#AeroIsEverything > handling.

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:42 pm
by Boab
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/reill ... ype-300747
Reilly unveils the Reflex, a titanium gravel race bike prototype to "take fast gravel riding to the next level"
Brighton-based titanium bike specialist Reilly has struck again at Ally Pally, showing off a prototype of a fascinating new race-foc gravel bike called the Reflex at the Cycle Show. While it's built for speed, so says Reilly, this is very much practical and fast gravel rather than US-style, minimal aero gravel, as the Reflex can run a dropper post and dynamo lights with fully integrated cabling and has huge 55mm tyre clearance.
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Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:37 pm
by Johnallan
I've been following Hi-light bikes on FB for a while and wondered who they were making frames for. Looks like Reilly is a customer using the 3d printed headstock

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 1017076798

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:57 pm
by johnnystorm
Boab wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:55 am More than just a gravel bike, evidently. Met the new Rondo MYLC.

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Looks like something from Bicycle Pube's Instagram feed.

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:45 pm
by boxelder
Compare the bar position between those last two bikes :geek:

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:19 pm
by Alpinum
boxelder wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:45 pm Compare the bar position between those last two bikes :geek:
Compare the reach between those last two bikes :geek:

Longer wheel base, shorter stem, no toe overlap for one of them. Winner of the two in my books. As ugly as it may look. Thankfully there are other bikes out there with the mentioned characteristics without looking hideous :grin:

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:34 am
by jameso
boxelder wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:45 pm Compare the bar position between those last two bikes :geek:
For an on/off-road bike, that could be the start of a quite long essay question :grin:

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:56 am
by johnnystorm
While it's built for speed, so says Reilly, this is very much practical and fast gravel rather than US-style, minimal aero gravel, as the Reflex can run a dropper post and dynamo lights with fully integrated cabling and has huge 55mm tyre clearance.
This bit I don't understand, it's "practical and fast" whereas US-style bikes are "minimal aero" implying they aren't 'fast bikes' while this runs 55mm tyres which won't be as 'aero' as a skinnier tyred bike. And a dropper, internal dynamo routing and and integrated cables aren't revolutionary in 2023.

Aside from the wheels that ironically make it look leaden it does look nice. 👌

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:34 am
by jameso
johnnystorm wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:56 am
While it's built for speed, so says Reilly, this is very much practical and fast gravel rather than US-style, minimal aero gravel, as the Reflex can run a dropper post and dynamo lights with fully integrated cabling and has huge 55mm tyre clearance.
This bit I don't understand, it's "practical and fast" whereas US-style bikes are "minimal aero" implying they aren't 'fast bikes' while this runs 55mm tyres which won't be as 'aero' as a skinnier tyred bike. And a dropper, internal dynamo routing and and integrated cables aren't revolutionary in 2023.

Aside from the wheels that ironically make it look leaden it does look nice. 👌
I guess they meant quite a few gravel race bikes have no routing for dropper and lights, tight clearances etc - fast intentions but impractical for many riders. Practical and fast is just adding a few holes to the frame and fork?
Can't see me wanting 55mm tyres on a bike like that but clearance is always good. Light 700 x 42 road tyres and well-fitted 50mm guards would be useful, could suit the rest of the bike well.

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:01 am
by Cheeky Monkey
johnnystorm wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:56 am
While it's built for speed, so says Reilly, this is very much practical and fast gravel rather than US-style, minimal aero gravel, as the Reflex can run a dropper post and dynamo lights with fully integrated cabling and has huge 55mm tyre clearance.
This bit I don't understand, it's "practical and fast" whereas US-style bikes are "minimal aero" implying they aren't 'fast bikes' while this runs 55mm tyres which won't be as 'aero' as a skinnier tyred bike. And a dropper, internal dynamo routing and and integrated cables aren't revolutionary in 2023.

Aside from the wheels that ironically make it look leaden it does look nice. 👌
I put it down to a hefty dose of marketing-dept-bollox :grin:

Edit - and from the pics old Alp' isn't wrong (when is he ever? :grin:) about the potential for toe overlap on that Reilly. It looks rather close, so close in fact that maybe the reason for the jaunty crank angle in that image is to avoid emphasising the issue - in a we-should-be-told!!!! kinda manner :wink:

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:38 am
by faustus
Nice frame on that Reilly, but otherwise it's a road bike with very chunky tyres. I do prefer it when off road capability of the tyres are more commensurate with geometry, but i've never been much interested in the road/allroad end of the gravel spectrum...

Re: Gravel porn

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:51 pm
by Alpinum
:lol: Cheers Monkey :-bd

Just a mountain biker happy to not having any overlap issues when riding stuff with the long reach curly bar bike (BMC URS) on the bits where the mountain bike would've been the better choice.