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Our response to the supposed ‘deal’ between Dartmoor National Park Authority and (as yet undisclosed) major landowners RE: Wild Camping.

Tl;dr: It’s a stitch up.

The proposed deal replaces long held rights with ‘permissive access’, which can be withdrawn at any time, entirely at the whims of the landowners.

We have also been told that ‘permission’ to wild camp will also involve some form of public payment to major landowners.

Many of these landowners already receive hundreds of thousands of pounds from the public via subsidies.

Right to Roam will not accept any agreement based on permissive rights. We have to end the hold this patronising, feudal system has over our access nature.

We will not accept our rights being stripped away in exchange for a pat on the head.

We will respond in further detail as more information is available.

There may be additional rules that escalate that into a criminal offence, such as breach of S193 Law of Property Act or local authority/National Park Authority byelaws, punishable by fine. Examples of this are MOD land, National Trust Land and access land in the Peak District and Lake District National Parks

riderdown wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:11 pm ....and the concentration of power in large landowners (new money or connected to 1066) which as always means we can't have nice things

That was only 957 years ago, so much progress has been made..

Lazarus wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:46 pm Big fan of the french approach to aristocracy

sean_iow wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:10 pm I was looking at the details of the permissive right that's the interim arrangement and it specifically says that camping is allowed provided you arrive on foot and carry your stuff in a rucksack.

So as the law is all about the wording, bikepacking isn't permitted Oversight? or do the NP and land owners not like bikes?

So as the law is all about the wording, bikepacking isn't permitted Oversight? or do the NP and land owners not like bikes?

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:05 am

So as the law is all about the wording, bikepacking isn't permitted Oversight? or do the NP and land owners not like bikes?

Wasn't cycling access very limited on Dartmoor anyway?

“In my judgment, on its true construction, section 10(1) of the Dartmoor Commons Act 1985 confers on members of the public the right to rest or sleep on the Dartmoor commons, whether by day or night and whether in a tent or otherwise”.

Timothy Morshead KC acting for the Darwalls, had argued that sleep cannot be considered to be "recreation" as you are not conscious.