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Raggedstone
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Calder Divide

Post by Raggedstone »

Are there any Boner's doing any of the Calder Divide variations ?
Johnallan
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Yes. Given the forecast, I'll probably be riding the 'short' MTB route. Still a hard 100 miles, especially int rain
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I'll be on it. Training for my first BB200 attempt 👍
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Forecast actually looks decent again, hopefully it stays that way. Back to Plan 'A' - long route :smile:
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Enjoyed that. Set off on the (extra) long route after completing the (classic) long route last year.

The first 50ish miles were hard - lots of open moorland, muddy single track and rough Pennine packhorse trails and bridleways. The cold north wind and low cloud wasn't helping but there's something quite enjoyable about the return of Autumn, even if it means riding a bit slower.

Things sped up a bit along the following greeways, towpaths and trails around the flatlands to the east, then a welcome tailwind made light work of the return towards the hills.

Lights and jacket back on as the route climbs in and out of the clag between the Holme, Colne and Calder valleys on some of my favourite sections of the Pennine Bridleway, then a bit more canal chugging and a bonus ascent to Lumbutts on the way back to base for a complimentary Vocation vanilla stout and pie n peas.

Considering the earlier forecast, I'd say we got off lightly. And considering the route was 'suitable for gravel bikes', I was happy with 3" tyres.

Best give the Stooge a hose off before BB200 :grin:

Total time 17h28m for the 168mile/6500ft route.
Valerio
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Hi all, has anyone here ridden the CDT red gravel/MTB 275km route?

I'm going to give the BB200 a go for the first time this year and I'm a bit anxious eheheh.

I've ridden the CDT route above, as well as some of the technical bits of the black route in the past.
From your experience from the BB200.....am I likely to face much more gnarly/slow stuff??
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Johnallan wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:15 am Enjoyed that. Set off on the (extra) long route after completing the (classic) long route last year.

The first 50ish miles were hard - lots of open moorland, muddy single track and rough Pennine packhorse trails and bridleways. The cold north wind and low cloud wasn't helping but there's something quite enjoyable about the return of Autumn, even if it means riding a bit slower.

Things sped up a bit along the following greeways, towpaths and trails around the flatlands to the east, then a welcome tailwind made light work of the return towards the hills.

Lights and jacket back on as the route climbs in and out of the clag between the Holme, Colne and Calder valleys on some of my favourite sections of the Pennine Bridleway, then a bit more canal chugging and a bonus ascent to Lumbutts on the way back to base for a complimentary Vocation vanilla stout and pie n peas.

Considering the earlier forecast, I'd say we got off lightly. And considering the route was 'suitable for gravel bikes', I was happy with 3" tyres.

Best give the Stooge a hose off before BB200 :grin:

Total time 17h28m for the 168mile/6500ft route.
Sorry I don't know how I missed your post!

Have you done the BB200 events before? If so, how do you say they compare to the CDT?
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Valerio wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:18 pm
Sorry I don't know how I missed your post!

Have you done the BB200 events before? If so, how do you say they compare to the CDT?
I've just done one BB200 and one BB300. I'm sure you're aware but the BB routes change every year. From my experience, expect less/no flat riding and some rougher/muddier sections, plus a couple of non-ridable sections. Also, the remoteness on the BB rides usually means carrying more supplies and likely a water-filter.

Expect lower average speeds on the BB rides, but also shorter overall distance.

I've really enjoyed the last 2 BB rides and also the last 2 CDT rides. Bikes=Fun :-bd
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Johnallan wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:23 pm
Valerio wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:18 pm
Sorry I don't know how I missed your post!

Have you done the BB200 events before? If so, how do you say they compare to the CDT?
I've just done one BB200 and one BB300. I'm sure you're aware but the BB routes change every year. From my experience, expect less/no flat riding and some rougher/muddier sections, plus a couple of non-ridable sections. Also, the remoteness on the BB rides usually means carrying more supplies and likely a water-filter.

Expect lower average speeds on the BB rides, but also shorter overall distance.

I've really enjoyed the last 2 BB rides and also the last 2 CDT rides. Bikes=Fun :-bd
Thanks Johnallan!

Yeah I'm aware that the route changes but I'm hoping there's some consistency in the level of difficulty/type of terrain.

Finding long flat sections would be nice hahah, I doubt we'll have that luxury as you say.
Hopefully the non-rideable sections are kept to a min, not a fan of hike-a-bike especially in the mud during the night.

Good point regarding resupplying.
I felt the CDT was OK but had i missed a couple of shops I might have been in trouble.

Hopefully legs and gravel bike will be up to the task :😀
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It's always worth having a good study of the route beforehand and working out where the shop/garages/takeaways are (if there's any at all), and checking the opening times.

Another point regarding BB Vs CDT. The trails used around Calderdale/Kirklees on the CDT are not overly affected by the weather and remain fairly quick to ride all year round. Expect the Welsh riding to be a lot slower after significant rainfall - not that it's likely to rain much in Wales during October, but you never know :smile:
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not a fan of hike-a-bike
Depends really some.is just a push with a bike and some is why the hell have I brought a bike here , the later , loaded, is not my idea of time well spent. Its tolerable on the big bike to get a superb downhill
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Setting off to do this tomorrow with Pete of this parish.

Starting from Edgworth and riding over to Watergrove to start it proper.

@ton, you made a generous offer, oooo, about a year ago, thanks. But we have decided to be car free. No idea where we will camp. I'm hoping to be somewhere above Holme.
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You could do worse than camping in Crossleys Plantation above Holme, although it will involve lifting the bikes over a wall. If you carry on a bit further though, the Fleece serves good food and good beer :-bd

It's a belting route, enjoy yourselves
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fatbikerbill wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:02 pm Setting off to do this tomorrow with Pete of this parish.

Starting from Edgworth and riding over to Watergrove to start it proper.

@ton, you made a generous offer, oooo, about a year ago, thanks. But we have decided to be car free. No idea where we will camp. I'm hoping to be somewhere above Holme.
If the weather had been better I'd have come ridden with you for a bit. Enjoy!
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Well the weather certainly didn't hold off on Thursday Andy.

We ended up doing an abridged version. We missed the Cornholme loop above Todmorden but called in to the welcoming Mays shop. I know it well and new that would be a tough 2-3 hours extra. We hid in the Robin Hood at Peckets Well, had a well needed meal and then bivvied just below Leadbeater dam. You can skirt around Haigh Cote Dam to find some shelter.

Day 2 we missed the whole eastern loop cutting across at Dewsbury, and amazingly missed most of the showers. Far too much tarmac and urban for my liking but it goes with the territory I guess. The route improves but still alot of tarmac as you rock and roll upwards. Back to familiar ground after Hade edge, calling in at the great Fleece cafe in Holme. Amazing black pudding scotch eggs. On to Wessenden Head for one of my favourite bivvy spots. Midges, arrrrrrr.

Down to Marsden for second breakfast. Met a load of (mainly gravel) riders doing some mad Crikey, how much ride, https://events.Crikey, how much.cc/products/beyond ... -challenge
They set off from Manchester at midnight. Crazy. Then pennine bridleway back to Hollingworth lake, canal to Rochdale and lastly shitty tarmac to home.

Very appreciative of the tent, which I have not used in favour of tarp or just bivvy for at least two years.
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If I can get the photos to work!

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fatbikerbill wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:40 pm Nope, can't do images!
https://bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/phpB ... lit=photos
There are theories at the bottom of my jargon.
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Pretty sure I've done exactly this from imgur

When you click it this appears( [ i m g ].........[ / img ] )* and you just paste the url link where I've put the dots.


No 'voile' for me. It's worked in the past
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fatbikerbill wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:09 pm Pretty sure I've done exactly this from imgur

When you click it this appears( [ i m g ].........[ / img ] )* and you just paste the url link where I've put the dots.


No 'voile' for me. It's worked in the past
URL needs to be the link to the image, not the hosting page. Right click on the image in Imgur, "open image in new tab" and it will be i.imgur.com/vtuB9s9.jpeg rather than imgur.com/vtuB9s9

Is the loop to Castleford a worthwhile part of the ride? I don't normally like routes which dogleg. The very same shortcut around Dewsbury is tempting to make a two day ride with camping into a long day ride.
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