XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
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XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
Now I've found my perfect sleep system for the majority of the year in the
Sierra Designs Backcountry Bed 20 Down Sleeping bag and the Nemo Tensor insulated regular wide sleeping mat.
https://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/ ... untry-bed/
Now I need to find the perfect bivi bag to work with these two and I wonder if you know which bag I need to get please?
One that can survive a shower or rainstorm like my Alpkit Kloke without the need of a tarp over the top, but not one with hooped head like the Elan Bivi etc.
But remembering that the bag and mattress work best joined together, so no mattress outside of the bivi bag suggestions please.
The mattress is rectangular measuring a chunky 72" x 25" x 3.0" deep, so it won't fit in tapered bags
Now I have 4 bivi bags (bloody hell)
Joe's shop white tyvex bivi bag but tapered so won't work with the Nemo
Alpkit Kloke - perfect at the shoulders but tapered so won't work with the Nemo
Alpkit Hunka XL - needs to be around 20% bigger as the depth of the mattress crushes the down of the bag completetly flat when I lay on my side so kills the insulation and on my back my toes crush the insulation flat too.
Borah Bivi bag with the side entry and large midge net is perfect - But it's not waterproof so needs a tarp
This photo was from last weekend using an Alpkit Numo mattress with my Sierra Designs sleeping bag, but I didn't sleep well because couldn't get as comfy as I do on the Nemo wide mattress.
I was thinking of having the taper taken out of the Alpkit Kloke, but that's £100 and with a chance of ruining a perfectly good bivi bag.
So, please can you help me find my perfect lightweight, non tapered, very breathable bivi bag to use over the sleep system that I use?
If I find it I'll be selling off my other bivi bags if you are interested in helping me fund the new one.
Sierra Designs Backcountry Bed 20 Down Sleeping bag and the Nemo Tensor insulated regular wide sleeping mat.
https://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/ ... untry-bed/
Now I need to find the perfect bivi bag to work with these two and I wonder if you know which bag I need to get please?
One that can survive a shower or rainstorm like my Alpkit Kloke without the need of a tarp over the top, but not one with hooped head like the Elan Bivi etc.
But remembering that the bag and mattress work best joined together, so no mattress outside of the bivi bag suggestions please.
The mattress is rectangular measuring a chunky 72" x 25" x 3.0" deep, so it won't fit in tapered bags
Now I have 4 bivi bags (bloody hell)
Joe's shop white tyvex bivi bag but tapered so won't work with the Nemo
Alpkit Kloke - perfect at the shoulders but tapered so won't work with the Nemo
Alpkit Hunka XL - needs to be around 20% bigger as the depth of the mattress crushes the down of the bag completetly flat when I lay on my side so kills the insulation and on my back my toes crush the insulation flat too.
Borah Bivi bag with the side entry and large midge net is perfect - But it's not waterproof so needs a tarp
This photo was from last weekend using an Alpkit Numo mattress with my Sierra Designs sleeping bag, but I didn't sleep well because couldn't get as comfy as I do on the Nemo wide mattress.
I was thinking of having the taper taken out of the Alpkit Kloke, but that's £100 and with a chance of ruining a perfectly good bivi bag.
So, please can you help me find my perfect lightweight, non tapered, very breathable bivi bag to use over the sleep system that I use?
If I find it I'll be selling off my other bivi bags if you are interested in helping me fund the new one.
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Re: XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
I reckon most have a degree of taper. However, most of the heavier (relative) eVent Rab bags are very roomy. (not the Alpine)
Are Borah still making their eVent bag? I recall that was quite spacious.
Are Borah still making their eVent bag? I recall that was quite spacious.
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Re: XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
Their website says "Currently unavailable"Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:19 pm Are Borah still making their eVent bag? I recall that was quite spacious.
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The obvious one John would be the Sierra Designs Backcountry 3000 https://ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/bac ... ifications.
I have the 'long' and it is a roomy bag for my 6ft 16 stone bulk with air mattress inside. Usual waterproof / breathable compromise, it's waterproof when fully closed, less condensation when opened up!
I have the 'long' and it is a roomy bag for my 6ft 16 stone bulk with air mattress inside. Usual waterproof / breathable compromise, it's waterproof when fully closed, less condensation when opened up!
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Re: XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
Not the lightest option but look at a British or Dutch (and probably many other) military bivi bag. They are generously sized to take into account a squaddie sleeping in his boots cuddling a weapon.
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I have a Dutch single hoop version from years ago, base is very heavy pu coated nylon. Upper is excellent lightweight (for the time ) goretex. Spacious, easily fit me in at 6'3" with plenty of space for kitNot the lightest option but look at a British or Dutch (and probably many other) military bivi bag. They are generously sized to take into account a squaddie sleeping in his boots cuddling a weapon.
Heavy and doesn't pack small, great if you are doing squaddie activities, I am not planning on using for bike packing
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i have a goretex military one. it was a gift from Shaf.
it is massive. about 7ft long and 6ft wide. roomy even with me inside.
it is massive. about 7ft long and 6ft wide. roomy even with me inside.
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Re: XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
Heavy for sure. I’d not be bikepacking with one but if you want a big bivi at a good price they certainly fit the bill.riderdown wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:43 pmI have a Dutch single hoop version from years ago, base is very heavy pu coated nylon. Upper is excellent lightweight (for the time ) goretex. Spacious, easily fit me in at 6'3" with plenty of space for kitNot the lightest option but look at a British or Dutch (and probably many other) military bivi bag. They are generously sized to take into account a squaddie sleeping in his boots cuddling a weapon.
Heavy and doesn't pack small, great if you are doing squaddie activities, I am not planning on using for bike packing
If you have silly money to spend look at Carinthia. They do full-retard special forces type gear including enormous 2.5m long bivi bags that cost north of £500 and weigh more than a kilo.
For example: https://www.alpinetrek.co.uk/carinthia- ... bivvy-bag/
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Re: XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
Borah Snowyside like Stu said. Bloke behind it was lovely when I dealt with him. I'd email and ask. Probably a bit ££££ given £ to $ and import lottery.
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I mused about getting the base redone in something lighter, it would still be heavy (size is part of that) but the goretex used is about as breathable as it gets. Use a 20d groundsheet as a replacement for the heavy duty one. Seam sealing would be the challengeHeavy for sure. I’d not be bikepacking with one but if you want a big bivi at a good price they certainly fit the bill.
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Re: XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
Have you thought of a Zelter shelter ? Not the lightest but I think the extra is worth it
For its versatility, the newer version has a wider “ foot flap”, it has a vent, extremely
Weatherproof, tough, packs relatively small, only thing I need to sort for mine is some
Kind of mossie net for the opening but that should prove easy enough?
For its versatility, the newer version has a wider “ foot flap”, it has a vent, extremely
Weatherproof, tough, packs relatively small, only thing I need to sort for mine is some
Kind of mossie net for the opening but that should prove easy enough?
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Re: XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
Saw that after posting,psling wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:26 pm The obvious one John would be the Sierra Designs Backcountry 3000 https://ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/bac ... ifications.
I have the 'long' and it is a roomy bag for my 6ft 16 stone bulk with air mattress inside. Usual waterproof / breathable compromise, it's waterproof when fully closed, less condensation when opened up!
Would the long one fit my Nemo rectangular 3" deep mattress please?
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Military one is HUGE but also quite heavy. Very robust though
The Borah snowyside one is great, I have one (not for sale ). Although the opening/midge net set up isn't as good as the normal chest zip. I don't use it very much, generally only when I'm planning not to use a tarp AND i think there's a chance of rain
The Borah snowyside one is great, I have one (not for sale ). Although the opening/midge net set up isn't as good as the normal chest zip. I don't use it very much, generally only when I'm planning not to use a tarp AND i think there's a chance of rain
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I have a new and unused British Goretex Bivvy Bag. I cannot get a long and wide Thermarest and a synthetic sleeping bag in it comfortably and I'm 6'1 and 13 stone. Also packed it's bigger and heavier than my bicycle 7 tarp. Bought it and tried it on the lounge floor some years ago and never then used it in anger. Yours if you want it John.lune ranger wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:37 pm Not the lightest option but look at a British or Dutch (and probably many other) military bivi bag. They are generously sized to take into account a squaddie sleeping in his boots cuddling a weapon.
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Re: XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
MLD Soul in eVent, great bags, sadly Ron doesn't offer a dcf base anymore but still very good with the silnylon bathtub
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Re: XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
Thankspsling wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:26 pm The obvious one John would be the Sierra Designs Backcountry 3000 https://ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/bac ... ifications.
I have the 'long' and it is a roomy bag for my 6ft 16 stone bulk with air mattress inside. Usual waterproof / breathable compromise, it's waterproof when fully closed, less condensation when opened up!
Oreded this very same bag, should be here on Saturday morning
A shout of to Ultralight outdoors (the online shop) for testing the set up with the gear that I bought previously to see if they all work together
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Did it work out?
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How was the Easter Weekend field test, Monday looked like a good testing day.
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Re: XXL Bivi Bags without a taper
Hi jBay,
It was brilliant, the bivi bag worked perfectly with the mattress and the same sleeping bag.
More info here on this link
https://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/ ... try-bivvy/
And the first review of the bag and mattress is here on this link below
https://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/ ... untry-bed/