Runners input please
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Runners input please
As I'm abit bored of riding the bike at the moment I thought id take up running again. Ive a new pair of salamon cross3 or something along those lines but they are to narrow on the toes and have rubbed a hole in my both my feet
So runners amongst us, what trail shoes can you recommend me for off road running please. Preferably with a wider toe box than salamon
So runners amongst us, what trail shoes can you recommend me for off road running please. Preferably with a wider toe box than salamon
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Altra brand have a wide toe box. I've got feet like a bloody camel and have found the Altra Lone Peaks to be about the only thing that actually fits me.
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Inov8. Always used to be wide though nowadays they seem to grade them, think 5 is widest.
Brooks Caldera (bit wooden planky) or Cascadia (mega comfy).
Shoes are like saddles though, very personal.
Have you sized up a bit? I run in shoes a full euro size bigger than day2day trainers.
Often good deals on Sportshoes.com
Proper runners will be along soon because I'm a pretty rubbish example
Brooks Caldera (bit wooden planky) or Cascadia (mega comfy).
Shoes are like saddles though, very personal.
Have you sized up a bit? I run in shoes a full euro size bigger than day2day trainers.
Often good deals on Sportshoes.com
Proper runners will be along soon because I'm a pretty rubbish example
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I've tried on a few pairs of Salomon and found them narrow. I get on well with Decathlon stuff, and have some Kalenji trail shoes that fit nicely.
Other sizing points of reference; I've tried on a lot of cycling shoes and found Shimano, Northwave, Gaerne, Sidi too narrow. Specialized and Lake fit nicely.
Other sizing points of reference; I've tried on a lot of cycling shoes and found Shimano, Northwave, Gaerne, Sidi too narrow. Specialized and Lake fit nicely.
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I’ve flittered between Salomon, Adidas and Inov8 for the last few years and have a wide forefoot and have settled on Inov8s suiting me best. I have a pair of Mudclaws for the really muddy stuff and then a pair of Terraultras for rock and forest trail and I used them for scrambles through the summer too. The terraultras are great on just about anything except really slippery mud. Mudclaws are mainly just a spare pair for when the terraultras are drying now.
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Inov 8 X Talon Ultra 260.
Wider than Mud Claws which are too narrow for me. I’d prefer the 260s to have a smaller heel to toe drop but I seem happy enough in them in pretty much any off road terrain from fell to field edge paths.
I like them enough that I’m now down to 2 pairs* of running shoes rather than the collection I had previously. Fit wise they’re superb for me.
260s for all off road and some Brooks offerings for road/easy trail.
*im ignoring the studded winter trainers which are in no danger of wearing out these days
Wider than Mud Claws which are too narrow for me. I’d prefer the 260s to have a smaller heel to toe drop but I seem happy enough in them in pretty much any off road terrain from fell to field edge paths.
I like them enough that I’m now down to 2 pairs* of running shoes rather than the collection I had previously. Fit wise they’re superb for me.
260s for all off road and some Brooks offerings for road/easy trail.
*im ignoring the studded winter trainers which are in no danger of wearing out these days
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I used to wear Inov8's and they were comfy, but they don't seem to last very long, the uppers split in under 200 miles.
My current shoes are Scott Kinabalu, it's taken me over 800 miles and over a year to wear these out. They have a reasonable width, but isn't loosing toe nails how you know you're a 'proper' runner
My current shoes are Scott Kinabalu, it's taken me over 800 miles and over a year to wear these out. They have a reasonable width, but isn't loosing toe nails how you know you're a 'proper' runner
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I'd have said go to a shop....but yeah...not much of that.
It's so variable. Think about where you're going to run (surface wise) most and then look at threads that suit that (similar to tyres) then look at models available.
FWIW I flit between VJsport, NVii, Inov8, Hoka and Muzino depending on where I'm running. No right shoe, just the correct tool for the job you're about to do.
It's so variable. Think about where you're going to run (surface wise) most and then look at threads that suit that (similar to tyres) then look at models available.
FWIW I flit between VJsport, NVii, Inov8, Hoka and Muzino depending on where I'm running. No right shoe, just the correct tool for the job you're about to do.
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I have been very impressed with the Hoka One One Torrent 2 shoe:
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/hoka-one-one-t ... nning-shoe
I had not heard of them before but the shoe is robust and offers good cushioning but not too much that I feel I am on platforms.
I have only done about 100 miles in them so far in the Dark Peak (Kinder) on gritstone rock and winter mush and they clean up looking almost new and the sole is barely worn.
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/hoka-one-one-t ... nning-shoe
I had not heard of them before but the shoe is robust and offers good cushioning but not too much that I feel I am on platforms.
I have only done about 100 miles in them so far in the Dark Peak (Kinder) on gritstone rock and winter mush and they clean up looking almost new and the sole is barely worn.
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Love my lone peaks
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Not much use at the moment, but as Greg says its best going to a proper shop where you can try on a few and have a go on a running machine to check.
Usually size up slightly over a normal shoe to stop your toes hitting the front of the shoes.
Where abouts are they rubbing?
Usually size up slightly over a normal shoe to stop your toes hitting the front of the shoes.
Where abouts are they rubbing?
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I wear Decathlon trail shoes for orienteering, I find them very comfortable.
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Saloman do offer what they call "Generous Fit" and "Wide Fit" shoes, i've not tried them as I'm fine in the standard fit, but might be worth looking at.
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This thread made me look at my Salomans in detail.
The horror of my heel striking..I'm going to need a new set soon
The horror of my heel striking..I'm going to need a new set soon
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Hi Dave
Brooks Cascadia fan here. Wider toe box than the cross shoes, decent tread. Saucany Perigrine are also wider and have a more agressive tread for wet conditions.
Brooks Cascadia fan here. Wider toe box than the cross shoes, decent tread. Saucany Perigrine are also wider and have a more agressive tread for wet conditions.
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As others have said, shoes are personal, like saddles. However, I’ve taken in recent years to buying a size larger than for a normal shoe just so your feet can spread when they’re walloped down at running speed.
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Thanks all, ill be doing some searching in the next few days
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What size are you?
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I was wondering that as well, I'm hoping for a cheap pair of size 10.5 Salomon's to come up in the classifieds
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On my second pair of these, first pair did just over 500km during the first lockdown - second pair on about 300km and not looking good. As the upper and lower are just glued together they tend to separate - problem with Hokas across the board really.stevewaters wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:34 pm I have been very impressed with the Hoka One One Torrent 2 shoe:
Not sure if I'd buy another pair, but they are really comfortable up to about 50km at a time. Even on really technical ground they cope well.
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I'm mainly using Hoka Speedgoats, replacement for the Challenger ATRs that eventually got too soft.
I also have Salomon Speedcross. Not as comfy on hard surfaces but the increased grip occasionally makes them the better choice.
I also have Salomon Speedcross. Not as comfy on hard surfaces but the increased grip occasionally makes them the better choice.
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I like my Altra Lone Peaks. They have a very wide toe box that lets your foot spread out. Also zero drop so encourage a more ‘natural’ running style.
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Struggled to get Hoka's to fit me until a recent re-issue-ish of the Speedgoat (II?). Very nice but still a little slender, particularly at the front / toes
Altra's very wide compared to lots of other brands but the zero drop of the sole is something I struggled with, being a bit of a heel striker in my running "style" (never have inverted commas been so appropriate!).
Always found Inov8's, whilst often a cracking fit, a bit firm for me, my knees and the loads they have to endure.
Old faithfuls for me are the Brooks Cascadia's and they are usually on sale at this time of year. Them or the Speedgoats.
Beware, running shoe styles and models re-launch more often than the MTB industry invents new standards and they can change the size / shape etc etc which makes the "same" shoe from last season "perfect" but this season's "mleh" or even worse "argh". The bonus is that frequent cycles usually mean good discounts.
Altra's very wide compared to lots of other brands but the zero drop of the sole is something I struggled with, being a bit of a heel striker in my running "style" (never have inverted commas been so appropriate!).
Always found Inov8's, whilst often a cracking fit, a bit firm for me, my knees and the loads they have to endure.
Old faithfuls for me are the Brooks Cascadia's and they are usually on sale at this time of year. Them or the Speedgoats.
Beware, running shoe styles and models re-launch more often than the MTB industry invents new standards and they can change the size / shape etc etc which makes the "same" shoe from last season "perfect" but this season's "mleh" or even worse "argh". The bonus is that frequent cycles usually mean good discounts.
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Looking like some of the fell races are going to start again soon, so thinking about having a go.
(Coiners from Mytholmroyd Greg)
General potential kit requirement:
2. Map I can print off the website and generally know where i'd be going, but how big?
3. How do you carry stuff?
If the weathers bad i'd give it a miss anyway
(Coiners from Mytholmroyd Greg)
General potential kit requirement:
1. What constitutes the waterproof? (I have a Montane Minimus Smock, if well used)Please bring FRA mandatory minimum kit incase it is required which includes waterproof full body cover (with taped seams & integrated attached hood) + hat or buff + gloves + appropriate map + compass (not out of a Christmas cracker!) + whistle. Emergency food advised.
2. Map I can print off the website and generally know where i'd be going, but how big?
3. How do you carry stuff?
If the weathers bad i'd give it a miss anyway
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Montane minimus would be a good choice of waterproof. map, I generally print to A4 and then fold in half and laminate to A5, unless it's a particularly long or tricky to navigate race.
Carrying would be a small bumbag generally, but a vest type of backpack is good on longer ones.
Carrying would be a small bumbag generally, but a vest type of backpack is good on longer ones.