WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

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WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by Mythste » Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:41 am

Hello!

First things first. I F'ing love my Trangia, but I have a few wee weekends where I want to be faster than carrying a full size Trangia really warrents.

With that in mind, does anyone have any lightweight/small footpring cooking solutions sat unloved somewhere? Open to all ideas and price ranges at the moment so let me know what you've got!

Cheers :-bd

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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by shutupthepunx » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:04 pm

mine is not for sale, no way josé. different stuff works for each of us but i really like the setup of a bb 22g stove, bb custom windshield and 900ml alpkit pot. https://bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/shop ... eths-stove

or if u wana go smaller lighter again then the bb 8g flavour, with bb windshield and a alpkit 650 mug (or vargo bot if your feelin like splashing out)

i know u were probly looking for stuff for sale more than suggestions but when u said open to all price ranges then i took that as the go ahead to chip in.

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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by Dave Barter » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:12 pm

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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by Mythste » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:14 pm

shutupthepunx wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:04 pm
mine is not for sale, no way josé. different stuff works for each of us but i really like the setup of a bb 22g stove, bb custom windshield and 900ml alpkit pot. https://bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/shop ... eths-stove

or if u wana go smaller lighter again then the bb 8g flavour, with bb windshield and a alpkit 650 mug (or vargo bot if your feelin like splashing out)

i know u were probly looking for stuff for sale more than suggestions but when u said open to all price ranges then i took that as the go ahead to chip in.
I absolutely appreciate the heads up. As you probably gathered from my first post I don't really know what I want/need. If I can get something that does brews, noodles, and the occasional creative one-pot I'll be happy!

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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by Borderer » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:39 pm

Stu's meths stoves are top drawer. You won't go wrong with one of those. Much better than a gas stove that you often end up having to carry a spare canister for - just top up your meths bottle before every trip and you are sorted.

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Post by whitestone » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:44 pm

I use a homemade beer can stove ( the stove is homemade, not the beer :???: ) 10g and is basically using something that would normally get thrown away. I use it with an Alpkit 650ml mug and a windshield made from some aluminium foil I had lying around, possibly <cough> from an old disposable barbeque</cough>. Everything (plus lighter, lint, tea bags and porridge for the morning ) fits into the mug. So really just a very compact version of the Trangia.

Gas is convenient but you've the weight and bulk of the canister to consider, also unless you refill the canister then that's just waste.

Petrol stoves are probably overkill for bikepacking unless you are in the Arctic where their greater heat output is ideal for melting snow and getting things going.
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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by ssnowman » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:45 pm

Another vote for Stu's meths stove. 22g one with ti pot. Simple and light. Perfect!
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Post by Lazarus » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:54 pm

then your options are either a lightweigth gas set up or a lightweight meths set up

Meths is a lighter set up but gas is faster and more reliable [ though somewill disagree on the laterpoint]
I tend to go meths in summer/warm and gas when cold /winter.

edit: I ue a 100g cannister filled from a 500g one its certainly heavier than meths as the canister is heavy [ relatively]

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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by Mythste » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:59 pm

Interesting.

Like I said, I love my trangia, so I'm no stranger to carrying meths. I have a little alpkit steel bottle that fits nicely under the downtube for that so no problems there. I even carry a pack of green rizzla with me even though I gave up smoking a long time ago as I found that using one as a wick made life much easier on cold mornings! I'm sure there are more sustainable ways available...

I was expecting more responses for brukit style all in one kits if I'm honest. What do we think drives the recommendations I've had before? Is it purely weight?

Thanks, by the way, I really enjoy soaking up this kind of information!

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Post by Bearbonesnorm » Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:23 pm

I was expecting more responses for brukit style all in one kits if I'm honest. What do we think drives the recommendations I've had before? Is it purely weight?
The trouble with Jetboil type stoves is (a) they're heavy and (b) they're bulky but if convinience is a prime concern then they're probably great.
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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by Mythste » Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:40 pm

Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:23 pm
I was expecting more responses for brukit style all in one kits if I'm honest. What do we think drives the recommendations I've had before? Is it purely weight?
The trouble with Jetboil type stoves is (a) they're heavy and (b) they're bulky but if convinience is a prime concern then they're probably great.
My touring history is HEAVY bike touring, with my 2 weeks in the outer hebrides bike weighing 50kg+ fully loaded. All the fellas I was with had the jet boil systems. Sounded like 747's taking off every morning whilst I quietly and serenely prepared my Trangia (and bacon, and eggs, much to their jealousy).

I prefer the idea of a lightweight Meths set up so may well focus my energies in that direction.

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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by Landslide » Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:48 pm

Hmm, bacon and eggs...

Stu, would one of your 22g stoves be capable of a fry-up?

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Post by Bearbonesnorm » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:17 pm

Stu, would one of your 22g stoves be capable of a fry-up?
Burn time is around 10 minutes depending on conditions ..... so, maybe.
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Post by whitestone » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:46 pm

the jet boil systems. Sounded like 747's taking off every morning whilst I quietly and serenely prepared my Trangia
Don't get an MSR X-GK then, about as quiet as a Saturn V moon launch :lol: Put out about the same amount of heat as well - I've deep fried chips on mine :-bd
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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by benp1 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:18 pm

The jetboil type stoves are quite bulky and not particularly light.

My original jetboil sadly died (mug is fine but burner is caput), I now use a Primus ETA+ which I really like. But I use these in the car/van. The all in one nature of them is great and they're very quick for heating water. Have never taken mine bikepacking, although I have taken it around in a rucksack before

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Post by Lazarus » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:15 pm

I have the alpkit one It is never ever coming on a ride with me except for when I go with the family when its speed and convenience is useful- otherwise its just incredibly heavy and a large volume
Great for car camping mind but its in no way the TLS option

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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by TheBrownDog » Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:05 pm

I'm a bit of a spod when it comes to meths stove. Got dozens of them and I love Stu's 8g jigger ... seriously, the best option if you want to boil 400ml of water carrying as little as you want. But I'm a clod and balancing a cup on the stove, even with the skirt provided by the windshield Stu sends ya, is not for me. I can't help but fiddle with things ... is it boiling ... can I see how much meths is left. That's me.

But my go to is this:https://www.storminstovesystems.co.uk/

For me, it's the right balance of pack size and functionality. Cheap too. I see they're not taking new orders for now, so presume he's furlough the lot.
I'm just stepping outside ...

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Post by Charliecres » Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:11 pm

I’ve done many a fry-up on my beer can meths stove. I use a very old, very cheap shallow aluminium pan balanced on top of a windshield that nests around my Mytimug. A second (side burner, deodorant bottle) meths stove (which nests inside the beer can stove when packed) warms my brew while I’m frying. Works well.

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Post by Specialist Hoprocker » Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:58 pm

I thought I'd see what the Army's Fire Dragon stove was like.

They're cheap as chips, small and lightweight. The fuel blocks are some smokeless bio fuel that you can use to clean your hands too.

Overall it worked well, but the blocks were expensive and individually plastic packed so I won't be using often.

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Post by Verena » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:52 am

Specialist Hoprocker wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:58 pm
I thought I'd see what the Army's Fire Dragon stove was like.

They're cheap as chips, small and lightweight. The fuel blocks are some smokeless bio fuel that you can use to clean your hands too.

Overall it worked well, but the blocks were expensive and individually plastic packed so I won't be using often.
I've got this, great little cooker for just a brew or a quick heat up of a meal.

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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by Kumquat » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:24 am

My meths set up
Is the burner out of a trangia alike with a cheapo windshield that fits inside a 750ml ti pot.
The pot sits on a spoke bent into a v shape and poked through 4 holes in the windshield.
The whole lot fits inside the pot along with a sponge/scrubber, lighter and folding cup.
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Post by Shewie » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:06 am

TheBrownDog wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:05 pm
I'm a bit of a spod when it comes to meths stove. Got dozens of them and I love Stu's 8g jigger ... seriously, the best option if you want to boil 400ml of water carrying as little as you want. But I'm a clod and balancing a cup on the stove, even with the skirt provided by the windshield Stu sends ya, is not for me. I can't help but fiddle with things ... is it boiling ... can I see how much meths is left. That's me.

But my go to is this:https://www.storminstovesystems.co.uk/

For me, it's the right balance of pack size and functionality. Cheap too. I see they're not taking new orders for now, so presume he's furlough the lot.
Sadly Stormin’ Norman passed away this week

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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by Mythste » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:23 pm

Should anyone be interested in an update; I have done what many a man before me has I'm sure done too.

I've listened to all of your advice, done research based on your advice.

and ignored all of it because I think I know better.

Gone for a Trangia mini. 330grams is leightweight by my standards and I can still gladly do a fry up.

I'll be back in two years when I realise it's too heavy, but for £27 I can't argue so far.

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Re: WTD - Lightweight Stove Solutions

Post by Mactheknife68 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:12 pm

Just watched a YouTube video of that. Looks ace and nice and narrow to fit in a framebag or Seatbag.

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