Alpkit (Sonder) bikes.

[Bearbonesnorm]

I see the new Alpkit bikes / frames are available to pre-order ... have to admit that I'm still a little disappointed that there's no steel, only Ti and aluminium.

https://www.alpkit.com/sonder

[johnnystorm]

Ah, just looking at something else on there and noticed something in the faqs that they really were imminent....

[JohnClimber]

have to admit that I'm still a little disappointed that there's no steel, only Ti and aluminium.

Been of a Brant design, you'd have thought that a steel inbred type bike would be the first one on the cards

[ton]

new bikes here. new bikes there. new bikes every bloody where...........

[GregMay]

Having rode and tested the Transmitter for a certain magazine - I've placed a pre-order.

Honestly the most fun bike I've ridden this year.

Can not flipping wait for it to arrive.

[Lawmanmx]

No Fat tho

[johnnystorm]

have to admit that I'm still a little disappointed that there's no steel, only Ti and aluminium.

Been of a Brant design, you'd have thought that a steel inbred type bike would be the first one on the cards

On One are still bashing out Brant's steel designs. Makes sense (to me anyway) to do something different.

[johnnystorm]

No Fat tho

Yet...carbon looks interesting if it's a good price.

[GregMay]

No Fat tho

There is a carbon fat bike coming.

[Dave Barter]

Greg. Did you test the Broken Road as well? That looks perfect for my next expedition bike.

[FLV]

strange geometry on the broken road.

16" seat tube but same length as a 19" / Large Salsa el Mar.
they dont make a seat post long enough for me to ride one!

Transmitter looks more sensible.

[ctznsmith]

The TT's on the broken road have got to be wrong surely?

[FLV]

You never know. they look a bit like some fat bike dims I've looked at. (usually done as the designers want to get massive stand over to allow for feet sinking in snow I think when people step off)

[ctznsmith]

Maybe. Makes more sense when it says 'designed for a 35mm to 50mm stem.

[FLV]

Maybe. Makes more sense when it says 'designed for a 35mm to 50mm stem.

Aye, mebbe.

Makes the wheel base long though when you go up a frame size to compensate. I bet its stable with a load riding down a fast fire road. Maybe not so nimble in the techy rocks (chain stays a longish too)

Obviously, I'm an arm chair bike designer, so I could be well off.

[slowupslowdown-under]

Shame camimo isn't bolted back and front

It ticks every other box!

[ScotRoutes]

So just ask brant to build one how you like (in Ti, obviously). That's what Pact is for.

[GregMay]

Greg. Did you test the Broken Road as well? That looks perfect for my next expedition bike.

Dave - I got to ride it, not long term test it. I like it, but I prefer my Fargo. Oddly I couldn't put my finger on why though.

[Mariner]

..........can run with 29” / 650b up front and 650b+ rear, infact it is our preferred set up.

Wouldn't that give you a wider rear?

[Firmo]

I'm considering the Sonder Camino Ti, but wondered - What other bikes are available that are similar to this (titanium / carbon)?

[Richpips]

We've got a loan of a Transmitter and a Vir Fortis.

They've been fun to ride today in the snow.

[johnnystorm]

More info on the Fatty please!

[Richpips]

More info on the Fatty please!

I've not really ridden a Fat Bike before so I can't compare to the others on the market.

It was a hoot to ride though. I got up loads of stuff that I wouldn't on a MTB.

[Richard G]

I really do like the look of that vir fortis.

[GregMay]

It does look nice doesn't it.

Oh look snow ..... must remember it won't last long enough to justify one!